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Tom Lesley has published 40 books in 2023, all with 100% positive reviews

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Re: Tom Lesley has published 40 books in 2023, all with 100% positive reviews

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Post by camhart »

ajonit wrote: post #64
jamesgill wrote: post #59

Amazon reviews were exploited and devalued years ago. I don't mean there aren't genuine reviews; I mean they've been gamed to the point that they don't really matter anymore. Amazon knows this.

True that. It is so bad that once I sent a irrefutable proof of the seller incentivising reviews, Amazon didn’t take any action at all.

> irrefutable proof

Anything coming directly from a customer is probably refutable. For example, the incentives I normally see are on these little cards they include with the product encouraging reviews in exchange for a gift card or something similar. What's to stop a competitor from falsely reporting it using a fake incentive card they created?

Amazon could take your report then actually open the product and see if the incentive card is actually stored with every product. But that's a bigger task than just trusting the proof you sent in.

Re: Tom Lesley has published 40 books in 2023, all with 100% positive reviews

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Post by kube-system »

inetsee wrote: post #33
thih9 wrote: post #26

Is it legal to publish books with content copied from chatgpt output? Is it possible to prove (in a legal sense) that this content comes from chatgpt?

The Copyright Office has decreed that AI generated content cannot be Copyrighted. If these books have a copyright listing then they are a violation of the rules. I doubt if the "author" is at risk for legal repurcussions, beyond not being able to sue for copyright violation.

There is nuance in the statement that you're referring to. Works created by an AI are not copyrightable, but works created by humans who use AI tools are copyrightable.

Non-humans do not have copy rights from the things they create. However, humans have copy rights even when they use tools.

Re: Tom Lesley has published 40 books in 2023, all with 100% positive reviews

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Post by jruohonen »

absoluteunit1 wrote: post #15

This is comedy From one review: “ One paragraph starts with "As an AI language model I can't....". Unfortunately we don't have an AI who can correct a book written by an AI. Fortunately I can send it back.” Sauce: https://www.amazon.com/product-reviews/B0BWVH451G/ref=acr_dp...

This is golden. Just as I expected this LLM craze to go down.

Re: Tom Lesley has published 40 books in 2023, all with 100% positive reviews

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Post by kcorbitt »

cdelsolar wrote: post #79
gtirloni wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even here on HN, people are using ChatGPT to write replies. You can spot it by the very verbose answers that don't say anything meaningful. Someone else commented here that AI would raise the noise level everywhere and I unfortunately have to agree.

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While LLMs can be prompted to write in many different styles, especially if you allow them to edit a text over multiple passes, the default "voice" of ChatGPT is surprisingly recognizable. For instance, the comment I'm replying to was clearly GPT-generated.

Re: Tom Lesley has published 40 books in 2023, all with 100% positive reviews

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Post by willcipriano »

camhart wrote: post #81
ajonit wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True that. It is so bad that once I sent a irrefutable proof of the seller incentivising reviews, Amazon didn’t take any action at all.

> irrefutable proof Anything coming directly from a customer is probably refutable. For example, the incentives I normally see are on these little cards they include with the product encouraging reviews in exchange for a gift card or something similar. What's to stop a competitor from falsely reporting it using a fake incentive card they created? Amazon could take your report then actually open the product and see if…

> What's to stop a competitor from falsely reporting it using a fake incentive card they created?

Order one themselves, open it up to see if it contains the card.

Re: Tom Lesley has published 40 books in 2023, all with 100% positive reviews

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Post by throwaway049 »

inetsee wrote: post #33
thih9 wrote: post #26

Is it legal to publish books with content copied from chatgpt output? Is it possible to prove (in a legal sense) that this content comes from chatgpt?

The Copyright Office has decreed that AI generated content cannot be Copyrighted. If these books have a copyright listing then they are a violation of the rules. I doubt if the "author" is at risk for legal repurcussions, beyond not being able to sue for copyright violation.

Imagine suing because someone ripped off your crappy ai-generated book: The court awards the plaintiff damages of 1 cent.

Re: Tom Lesley has published 40 books in 2023, all with 100% positive reviews

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Post by D13Fd »

cdelsolar wrote: post #79
gtirloni wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even here on HN, people are using ChatGPT to write replies. You can spot it by the very verbose answers that don't say anything meaningful. Someone else commented here that AI would raise the noise level everywhere and I unfortunately have to agree.

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. . . said the AI.

Re: Tom Lesley has published 40 books in 2023, all with 100% positive reviews

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Post by kube-system »

layer8 wrote: post #67
somenameforme wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This [1] is, to my knowledge, the latest word on who'd own the copyright. And the answer is most likely the author, with the second most likely candidate being nobody. In a nutshell, "AI" generated content itself cannot be copyrighted since the process is carried out by software instead of a human, and software cannot be assigned ownership of copyright. However, material that is sufficiently recombined in a 'creative…

> software cannot be assigned ownership of copyright. More precisely, only human works are subject to copyright. The law simply doesn’t apply to works by animals, AIs, or anything else, even when they are as creative as a human.

However, a human can use animals or AIs (or anything they want) as a tool in their human created work.

Re: Tom Lesley has published 40 books in 2023, all with 100% positive reviews

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Post by iso1631 »

gtirloni wrote: post #69
dahart wrote: post #11

This was an inevitable outcome of ChatGPT/LLMS, no? I expect to see a lot more of this by a lot of different people. I feel like a ton of the examples I’ve seen to date are effectively regurgitating Stack Overflow (sometimes verbatim!) and in a kind of abstract way, I feel like this is exactly the same as someone opportunistically publishing a bunch of auto-generated books… publishing a model trained on a bunch of we…

Even here on HN, people are using ChatGPT to write replies. You can spot it by the very verbose answers that don't say anything meaningful. Someone else commented here that AI would raise the noise level everywhere and I unfortunately have to agree.

> You can spot it by the very verbose answers that don't say anything meaningful.

I've been doing that online for years! Does this mean ChatGPT be taking my hobby away?

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