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Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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I’m old enough to remember the advent of YouTube and remember thinking that it would obviously be one of zillions of video-streaming sites. Nope. Still I am mystified by the dynamic whereby there is just one website people go to to watch videos and just one Twitter and just one Facebook. Somehow, having all the choice in the world funnels into its opposite.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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I can't understand people paying for streaming services like Netflix & competition, where all their catalogs are region-locked and every single one of them producing mostly crappy shows/movies (at least that's the Netflix I experienced last time I was able to use someone else's account on someone else's computer many years ago, so I must assume as everything else, things get worse, not better). What would I pay for?…

Take a look at mubi. (movies only, no series)

Thanks for that one. The catalog that they have seems very interesting!

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YouTube is by far the most reviled live streaming platform. Even if you ignore the insane automatic demonetization trap labyrinth and play perfectly by the books, the monetisation is slapped on as an afterthought, such that you have to already be a celebrity to make any real money out of it. And as for the "how to fix my panasonic..." Style videos the article praises, unfortunately that video which could be 45 second…

I think the point is that the "how to fix my panasonic..." videos don't exist anywhere else.

Sure you could work it by googling "panasonic manual pdf" out but a lot of the times someone has had the exact same issue and have thankfully shared their fix on Youtube.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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> Those sorts of edutainment style videos are not ever going to compete against say, a college degree. They're totally different things, obviously... > you may learn some factoids about physics are learn about some cool experience but in no way will they impart to you a deep understanding of any subject. Those sorts of edutainment style videos are not ever going to compete against say, a college degree. I disagree wi…

I agree with you entirely, but my post was in response to someone saying that a kid could finish high school with professional skills due to youtube... thats just not realistic. Sure it might pique their interest but so can books, television, talking with adults, school, etc. So I still do not think youtube is a particularly effective "professional skills education" tool

It 100% is realistic dependent on the field. If you combine what you learned from YouTube with personal projects you can be professionally proficient in:

- An instrument/songwriting

- Music Production

- Video Production

- DevOps

- Network Administration

- Any kind of programming (Frontend, Backend, Game Development, Assembly, whatever you can think of)

- Vehicle Mechanics

- Electronics Repair

- Maths

- Hair and Makeup

- Costume/Fashion Design

- Fitness/sport coaching

- Graphic Design

- Bookkeeping

- CAD Design

- Carpentry

- Plumbing

And these are just the ones off the top of my head. They might need to get the piece of paper in order to legally practice, but the kids out there who like delving into how things work (and they do exist) could absolutely have all the knowledge they needed to work in a professional capacity and often do. Proficiency and reputation trump certificates.

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I have a 9 and 7 year old and we are constantly enjoying such YouTube channels as "smarter every day", "veritasium" (spelling?), "Stuff made here", to some extent Colin furze, "technology connections", and other such edutainment. Not sure it speaks about differences in kids, in ages, in households, or likely a combination of sorts. Also, not a judgement on your kids, just a counterpoint about the resources available…

But those channels you listed are not educational, theyre "educational" e.g. you may learn some factoids about physics are learn about some cool experience but in no way will they impart to you a deep understanding of any subject. Those sorts of edutainment style videos are not ever going to compete against say, a college degree. Now there is excellent serious educational material on youtube, stuff like khan academy,…

> you may learn some factoids about physics

are MIT lectures "factoids" now?

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mit+opencoursew...

> Gen z isnt just learning physics by idly watching veritasium videos.

This is a massive generalisation. Sure, I'd probably agree with you that a large cohort are watching a lot of trash. But there's a sizeable amount who are putting the work. And I imagine that the percentage of those putting in the work probably increases the closer they are to the poverty line growing up.

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School is less about learning a subject to any serious degree, and more about socialization and exposure to a breadth of subjects. I am suspect of people who view school purely as an educational experience.

Is "calculus" a hard core counterexample?

I think parent speaks more about younger people. By the time you get to calculus, you're probably expected to be mature and somewhat independet.

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Yup, I'm the same. I've totally given up on navigating anything except my home page, I'm actually astonished at how good it is. The newest videos from my favorite channels are always listed first, and then it's a smattering of older popular ones from the topics and channels I watch the most, and a handful of things "adjacent" to those that are sometimes not for me but sometimes become my new favorite rabbit hole, so…

I am hooked as well. (But, please, stop with the YouTube Shorts, I'm just not that into you.)

Agreed, pretty annoying when I’m trying to upload a unlisted screen cast or something under one minute to send to a specific person, and then, when I send it to him, they don’t have the ability to seek or easily restart the video.

I know it’s possible to change the URL manually, but I’ve seen it not work, depending on the type of client that views the video - YouTube should allow the viewer to switch off shorts even for a specific video

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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The lesson I get from all these replies is (shock & horror!): Kids are different . I hear of kids who are intelligent, energetic, curious... all those good things. Probably NURTURE (i.e. the parents) has something to do with that. But then: also NATURE. Not having any kids myself, I'm not going to preach.

The thing you’re missing is that it generally doesn’t matter how much YouTube a kid watches. Parents stress out too much over doing everything exactly right when it probably doesn’t matter that much. Kids are pretty resilient and hard to screw up. Most kids grow up to be average adults with average jobs doing average things. No amount of Smarter Everyday is likely to change that. And if they do grow up to be an astro…

> And if they do grow up to be an astronaut or whatever, Smarter Everyday shouldn’t get all the credit, it’s more luck of the draw.

I'm not sure an astronaut is the best profession to get your point across here. The resume of an astronaut is normally off the charts. They put in an absolute fuck ton of work, it's definitely not luck of the draw.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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I agree with the author. I just cancelled Spotify and got YouTube Premium and it was an absolutely brilliant decision. Pretty soon I’m going to cancel Netflix and Prime too and just take out the odd month subscription to a streaming service if there’s something I really want to watch. I’m probably better off watching some informative documentary on YT than I am watching Netflix anyway and if I want entertainment, the…

As a Millennial, I can confidently say this is not true. I learned LAMP architecture as a kid by reading tutorial webpages and following along. No bank account or library card needed. Wikis and how to's were updated regularly, were uninterrupted by ads and were easily searchable! I learned SQL on a dynamic website where I could write code and see results (or errors) instantly! If I needed help, message boards were th…

Well as the Millennial who wrote the comment, I can confidently say that it is true. Just because you preferred to learn programming through reading tutorials doesn't mean that the same is true for everybody else or that text is the best medium for the majority of skills out there. I'm pretty sure the majority of mechanics and construction workers would prefer to see videos of a repair over a text description.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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I'm troubled by YouTube. There is absolutely incredible content there. And there is so much shit in between the good stuff. Does anyone run a frontend that offers control over the shit? I want my kids to have autonomy in viewing interesting things there, but I don't want to YouTube algorithm attacking their developing brains. Maybe a browser plugin?

The following are all web browser add-ons: "Unhook" hides the related videos, comments, shorts tab, suggestions wall, homepage recommendations, trending tab and other distractions on YouTube pages. "BlockTube" lets you block channels or videos by ID, title keywords, or comment content. "Channel Blocker" puts an X next to the channel name on each video. Clicking the X instantly and permanently removes the channel from…

I need to do a lot of work on this extension but I made one that filters out negative and political content: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/healthy-surf/

Also works on old.reddit.com/r/all which is its main use case for me

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