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Windows 11’s taskbar is finally getting labels and never combine app icons

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Re: Windows 11’s taskbar is finally getting labels and never combine app icons

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

mangecoeur wrote: post #46
DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> how bad was the win10 task bar codebase Well, in Windows 10 there's at least 4 different styles of context-menu in the Taskbar depending on where you click - so given that, I'm guessing it's a bit of a mess. 1. Right-click the Start button or empty space on the Taskbar: Win32 (USER32?) standard menu, but with a custom dark background and extra menu-item padding to make them touch-friendly. Earlier versions of Windo…

But is this fixed in win11? From what others tell me the win11 is actually just another skin on the same code. You can still find plenty of UI styles from previous windows in win11

Win11 uses a new taskbar and start-menu that was originally never intended for desktop use: it was for a phablet UI for "Windows X" - which got killed-off and the code ported over to the main Windows codebase. I have no idea why.

Re: Windows 11’s taskbar is finally getting labels and never combine app icons

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Post by notarget137 »

simula67 wrote: post #53
cubefox wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with pleasing old costumers is that you might fail to gain new customers. Microsoft is mostly conservative with its OS, while Apple is not afraid to cut off features it consideres outdated. And the MacOS market share has increased strongly over the last ~20 years.

You can solve this problem with branding. Have a "Windows OS Bleeding Edge" brand that changes regularly. Have "Windows OS LTS" brand that changes less often.

They have tried exactly that with Windows 10 LTSC. And killed it off quite qucikly.

Re: Windows 11’s taskbar is finally getting labels and never combine app icons

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Post by pdntspa »

notarget137 wrote: post #62
simula67 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can solve this problem with branding. Have a "Windows OS Bleeding Edge" brand that changes regularly. Have "Windows OS LTS" brand that changes less often.

They have tried exactly that with Windows 10 LTSC. And killed it off quite qucikly.

It was gimped from the start, LTSB/LTSC was never available to the general public

Re: Windows 11’s taskbar is finally getting labels and never combine app icons

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Post by Arrath »

Algent wrote: post #16
AstralStorm wrote: post #13

Still no vertical taskbar. Horizontal is a waste of precious screen estate.

I miss the 16/10 era of monitors so much. I saw it advertised as a feature in some recent laptop.

My laptop is a 16:10 screen! I love it.

Re: Windows 11’s taskbar is finally getting labels and never combine app icons

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Post by seritools »

Algent wrote: post #16
AstralStorm wrote: post #13

Still no vertical taskbar. Horizontal is a waste of precious screen estate.

I miss the 16/10 era of monitors so much. I saw it advertised as a feature in some recent laptop.

Lots of notebooks thankfully adopted 16:10 or even 3:2 again, yeah.

Re: Windows 11’s taskbar is finally getting labels and never combine app icons

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Post by coldpie »

Algent wrote: post #16
AstralStorm wrote: post #13

Still no vertical taskbar. Horizontal is a waste of precious screen estate.

I miss the 16/10 era of monitors so much. I saw it advertised as a feature in some recent laptop.

I miss 3:4. Don't know why everyone loves these stupidly wide monitors. Modern displays have fewer vertical pixels than my damn 2002-era CRT did.

Re: Windows 11’s taskbar is finally getting labels and never combine app icons

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Post by wolpoli »

mschuster91 wrote: post #26
logifail wrote: post #19

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> on the other the endless sea of enterprise customers representing a burden for compatibility Ah, those users. Users who want their OS to stay firmly in the background and let them get on with their jobs, and who aren't actually that bothered about "feature" upgrades every month or three. Something is very wrong with a business when a big proportion of the customer base is viewed as a burden on the product.

> Something is very wrong with a business when a big proportion of the customer base is viewed as a burden on the product. The curse of products that are - in their foundations - over thirty years old and used by billions of people. To expand: - any time Microsoft does fundamental changes to the look and feel or to management/configuration, enterprise users (the kind that buys tens of thousands of licenses at a time,…

> if MS breaks too much or forgets to add compatibility modes/quirks, said enterprise customers are going to be pretty pissed because that can sometimes mean they have to buy new machines costing many millions of dollars

The obvious solution is to leave those enterprise customers behind on the legacy edition of Windows and launching something new. But Microsoft seems incapable of going to market with something new also. They created Windows 10x, and then went and merged the new parts back into the legacy platform.

Re: Windows 11’s taskbar is finally getting labels and never combine app icons

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Post by LarryDarrell »

simula67 wrote: post #53
cubefox wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem with pleasing old costumers is that you might fail to gain new customers. Microsoft is mostly conservative with its OS, while Apple is not afraid to cut off features it consideres outdated. And the MacOS market share has increased strongly over the last ~20 years.

You can solve this problem with branding. Have a "Windows OS Bleeding Edge" brand that changes regularly. Have "Windows OS LTS" brand that changes less often.

Or just have two Desktop Environments. One for the hoi polloi where the designers can go wild and the bean counters can push MSN "news", and one for Enterprise/Professionals that is more or less "Classic".
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