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MouthPad – In-Mouth Bluetooth Mouse Uses Tongue Sensitive Trackpad

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Re: MouthPad – In-Mouth Bluetooth Mouse Uses Tongue Sensitive Trackpad

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I've been wanting a wearable computer with a display integrated into glasses for years. A few years ago I got to try one that was on par with a Fitbit Versa, which would be perfect for me. (I never got one, and now it's not being made.)

Something like this would be perfect for a wearable computer. I personally want to try one, but I suspect the cost, and custom molding, are too high to "just try it out." I had a 3D scan of my mouth a few months ago for a bite guard, and it cost more than $700.

One thing that I want to point out is that the battery module next to the molars looks very uncomfortable.

Re: MouthPad – In-Mouth Bluetooth Mouse Uses Tongue Sensitive Trackpad

#113

I'd like to see more comments from the target audience, at the moment the comment section is full of abled people who speculate on the needs and experiences of the target audience.

> abled people who speculate on the needs A device like this makes a lot of sense for wearable computing. I wouldn't assume the target market are people with disabilities.

The trailer video exclusively features people with quadriplegia.

Re: MouthPad – In-Mouth Bluetooth Mouse Uses Tongue Sensitive Trackpad

#114
From the way the cursor moved on the screen and the visualization of input with those orange squares, it looks like it operates similar to the thinkpad trackpoint. (There’s a dose of serendipitous humor here - the trackpoint has an infamous anatomical nickname, and this device seems to be reminding some commenters of a related activity.)

I wonder if they’ve explored trackballs? Conventional trackballs are operated with a single finger, usually the thumb, and proponents of trackballs claim it’s the equal of (or even superior to) a mouse, while touchpads and trackpoints do seem slightly limited compared to full-fledged mice. Controlling a trackball with your tongue instead of your thumb seems like it might be just as effective - maybe even more effective! This might be an avenue to make this device even more capable.

(Did I just compare the cunnilingus touchpad to the clit mouse, and then suggest adding “licking balls”? Goddamnit, lol)

Re: MouthPad – In-Mouth Bluetooth Mouse Uses Tongue Sensitive Trackpad

#116

I worked in accessible tech for the blind for a few years. It's awesome that these guys are doing something that could be genuinely useful to a swathe of society who really needs the help, and I do wish the space got more attention and money. However, and I hope I'm wrong here, this is looking like another case of techies with a nifty looking device that will be "available soon" but, more importantly, already tried m…

Product 1 never reached the market. Product 2 and 3 are very different.

Product 1 - failed (why?) Product 2 - identical use case Product 3 - identical use case

I want to be clear - it's awesome they are putting in the effort to work in accessibility. But why will Product #4 prove profitable when it is a rehash of an approach that has been tried for years without gaining much steam above and beyond what is already there.

What is the evidence that their tweak in technology will be a major market breakthrough? Is it that much easier to use? Is it that much more comfortable? If the answer is inconclusive, then best to leave this application and find an overlooked problem paraplegics face that really could benefit from a technology solution

Re: MouthPad – In-Mouth Bluetooth Mouse Uses Tongue Sensitive Trackpad

#117

I worked in accessible tech for the blind for a few years. It's awesome that these guys are doing something that could be genuinely useful to a swathe of society who really needs the help, and I do wish the space got more attention and money. However, and I hope I'm wrong here, this is looking like another case of techies with a nifty looking device that will be "available soon" but, more importantly, already tried m…

Even copycat competition might help in that it can lower prices for consumers. I use a Penguin mouse and they cost a lot for what is just generic electronics in an unusual-shaped housing. But I can't find any other ambidextrous vertical mouse.

I agree, more competition is generally better but the unfortunate reality of accessible tech is margins are usually already very low, and real market not that big [0]. So if a price war starts the result is usually a company deciding to leave the space entirely.

[0] Yes, there is a huge population of people who will benefit from accessible tech, unfortunately very often they cannot afford the technology and the funding is often limited

Re: MouthPad – In-Mouth Bluetooth Mouse Uses Tongue Sensitive Trackpad

#118

I'm able bodied, but years back suffered tremendous pain, that led to me having to lie down on my back and use the computer with a keyboard. And TBH even that was a pain. I got quite far under OSX tiger, and browse the web. Use a terminal etc. But at the time it led me into thinking about alternative interfaces. And the one thing that did catch my eye was 'dasher' for text entry. Which could be controlled with a simp…

Since when we talk, our tongues tap patterns on the roof of the mouth and the back of the teeth, I wonder if AI processing could infer what words you are shaping from these sensors. Maybe it’s possible to input text by mouthing words silently, but without opening your mouth. Kind of like how it’s possible to eavesdrop from just the sound of keyboard clicks: https://github.com/ggerganov/kbd-audio

Tongue contact might be sufficient (in linguistics, two of the axes of "pronunciation space" are "dental" (whether the tongue makes contact with the teeth) and "palatal" (whether the tongue makes contact with the palate).

There are a number of other dimensions however that are equally important in the creation of word-sounds (e.g., whether the lips are pursed, whether the vocal folds are vibrating, whether the teeth make contact with the lips, where the tongue is located in the space of the mouth [for vowels], etc) and would make determination just from the dental/palatal axes pretty difficult I think. But maybe with enough context, you could get something predictive that is more than good enough, even if it's not into deterministic territory

Re: MouthPad – In-Mouth Bluetooth Mouse Uses Tongue Sensitive Trackpad

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post #114

From the way the cursor moved on the screen and the visualization of input with those orange squares, it looks like it operates similar to the thinkpad trackpoint. (There’s a dose of serendipitous humor here - the trackpoint has an infamous anatomical nickname, and this device seems to be reminding some commenters of a related activity.) I wonder if they’ve explored trackballs? Conventional trackballs are operated wi…

Don't feel too bad, in the video on their website one of the users mentioned using it to control her dildo.
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