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MouthPad – In-Mouth Bluetooth Mouse Uses Tongue Sensitive Trackpad

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Post by jimmySixDOF »

jack_riminton wrote: post #4

Great idea! Does anyone know what the current state of brainwave navigation is? I saw a flurry of investment in new startups over the last 5 years but it's all gone a bit quiet

I am half way through "The Battle for Your Brain: Defending the Right to Think Freely in the Age of Neurotechnology" by Nita A. Farahany [1] and it is not a matter of if; but of when. I can only guess that the same advances in transformers etc that are buzzfeeding the LLM space right now will also accelerate BMI systems. Introducing new input and output sensory pathways between the brain and the world is yet another potentially transformational species defining tech for society to watch for on the radar screen as if there was not enough going on in that department.

[1] https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/60784561

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Post by serf »

d0gsg0w00f wrote: post #88
serf wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a c-5 incomplete quadriplegic with hemispheric stroke-like paralysis that bothers my body all over. Some of it is just weakness, some of it is incomplete sensation, some of it is total paralysis. I have one weak-yet-functioning hand, and one hand that works only via the tone present in the hand as a rough pointing-poking tool. I use a manual wheelchair. At my injury level I am exceedingly fortunate to have decent…

> I would love this as a device for TIG-torch actuation Thanks for the chuckle. My mom works with people with disabilities and all of her clients that I've met are like this--determined and capable. I imagine there's a lot of people who need help in getting these tech setups going with a bunch of trial and error and then after that they can independently operate. Are there any volunteer groups that help with that?

>I imagine there's a lot of people who need help in getting these tech setups going with a bunch of trial and error and then after that they can independently operate. Are there any volunteer groups that help with that?

I'm pretty out-of-touch with the accessibility/advocacy world, but should such a group exist I think that it'd be a blast to work for/with them. Giving someone back an ability is something that may be minor for some, but life-changing for others. I would imagine that it would be immensely gratifying work.

I know of groups like AbleGamers that have helped with gaming accessibility as well as providing equipment for people on a limited-basis. I think they were also one of the forces behind the XBox Adaptive Controller, which was a boon for some.

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Post by flipp »

Gys wrote: post #28

> Initial 3D intraoral dental scan > Custom-designed MouthPad^ device This seems expensive. I hope the future brings a more general version.

Dental offices all over the country have scanners that use regular cameras + photogrammetry to create 3d models of your teeth. They've become pretty widespread with the rise of Invisalign, Smile Direct, and others. These scans can be pretty inexpensive, like a few hundred dollars or less.

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Post by UncleEntity »

Loranubi wrote: post #25
pen2l wrote: post #18

It seems pretty nifty. I played around with Tobii eye-tracking hardware half a decade ago and was pretty amazed by its precision. I understand now it also has Glasses (vs. the model I tried, a tracker you put below your monitor usually). Marrying eye-tracking glasses with this mouthpad might be a winning combination: eye-tracking being the mouse to navigate in xy-space, and mouthpad for clicks. Kudos to this group fo…

The tongue muscle can be trained. This is also useful for at least one other activity.

So expect one as a stocking stuffer from the significant other?

—edit—

Mavis Beacon Teaches… umm, got nothing.

Ok, I’m done.

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Post by [deleted] »

tyingq wrote: post #83
ycombinete wrote: post #27

I realise this is intended for accessibility (for which is looks amazing), but I can also see this gaining widespread abled [0] use for things like gaming, and making mobile computing easier. I can see myself pulling out the iPad on the train, and popping in the mouthpad to make navigation through Mails, Procreate, etc. easier. [0] I tried "non-disabled" here, but that just seemed too clumsy. Am I missing an obvious…

One use case that popped in my head was stealthy use, like card counting or cheating on tests. Especially if it had some kind of haptic feedback.

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Post by anfractuosity »

There's also a tongue display unit, which consists of a matrix you place on the tongue and it outputs DC voltages on the tongue.

"The tongue display unit (TDU) for electrotactile spatiotemporal pattern presentation" - https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/82729288.pdf

Also see - https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/05/15/seeing-with-yo...

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Post by evan_ »

Loranubi wrote: post #25
pen2l wrote: post #18

It seems pretty nifty. I played around with Tobii eye-tracking hardware half a decade ago and was pretty amazed by its precision. I understand now it also has Glasses (vs. the model I tried, a tracker you put below your monitor usually). Marrying eye-tracking glasses with this mouthpad might be a winning combination: eye-tracking being the mouse to navigate in xy-space, and mouthpad for clicks. Kudos to this group fo…

The tongue muscle can be trained. This is also useful for at least one other activity.

I wonder if this has fine enough resolution to allow the wearer to input text by writing letters with their tongue.

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Post by browie »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #21

I'd like to see more comments from the target audience, at the moment the comment section is full of abled people who speculate on the needs and experiences of the target audience.

It's interesting but I wouldn't use it, partly because I got some hand functions still as a quadriplegic, I'm typing this on a keyboard with only my thumbs and I can type quite fast. I also have my mouse clicks switched as I cannot move my index finger, so I click with my middle finger. Other quadriplegics have it worse so things like this would be dope for them. At the end of the day, we will adapt to anything regardless.

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Post by worthless-trash »

evan_ wrote: post #97
Loranubi wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tongue muscle can be trained. This is also useful for at least one other activity.

I wonder if this has fine enough resolution to allow the wearer to input text by writing letters with their tongue.

If it can be used as a pointer, it can be used as textual input. People use existing tools like eye-tracking for text input.
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