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Generally speaking I do not consider a fast charging network really possible on scale, for highways (or inter-state in USA too) the only possible and VERY HARD solution might be direct car powering like we have for trains.
> That means mapping out charging stations in a comprehensive, thoughtful way … not leaving it to the whims of the commercial sector, … It will require cities to develop plans for how and where to locate public chargers I spoke at public hearing last year in favor of an EV ordinance that my city passed. I believe that if we are to involve government with EV adoption, which is necessary, we need to be prepared for bac…
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I do have a home charger, but I also take more road trips in the Tesla than I do in my ICE car because the Tesla is more comfortable. The Tesla is quieter, the seats are better, and with occasional use of autopilot I can stretch my arms and legs while driving. In addition, if I get sleepy I just pull over and take a nap in the back (Model Y here) in air-conditioned comfort. Can't do that in an ICE car without running…
I love that. I want to buy a Tesla now, you should get into advertising :)
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> Compared to Tesla, where you just pull up and plug in. No app, no card reader. It just works. This has been 100% of my Electrify America experiences as well, along with a few other brands. Some have been able to take payment by tap to pay credit card as well without an app.
Tesla lacks the need to tap card and you just plug in. Supposedly that tech is coming to CCS EVs someday.
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So charge before you are down to 30 miles?
The point is that 90% is not good when the alternative is 99.99%. For gas stations, 99.99% of the time the pump works. So much so that I don’t even consider that it doesn’t work. That’s the level of reliability that I expect.
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There's a Sheetz in Stephens City that adds like 10 minutes to get to. Add 15-20min for actually charging. If you do it both ways, that's probably less than 1 hour extra on a 6 hour drive. Hardly a "multi-hour" detour. And if your camping area has power, you probably don't even need to stop at all.
Maybe ABRP isn’t aware? If I route a Tesla 3 base, it sends me through Cumberland. I’ve also had it route me through Hagerstown with non-Tesla. In both cases, it wasn’t charge time that was the problem - it was getting to the charger. https://abetterrouteplanner.com/?plan_uuid=8c9a884e-0429-42c...
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That's just the "pre-authorization" on your card. It gets released again when you end the charging session, minus the charging cost for the kWh you used. Same thing as gas stations where you use your card before using the fuel pump. If you didn't end the charging session (e.g. by pressing a button or presenting the same card again), you may have given the next person a free charge?
Lol, no. The money is gone, turned into "charging credit" into that application.
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The point is that 90% is not good when the alternative is 99.99%. For gas stations, 99.99% of the time the pump works. So much so that I don’t even consider that it doesn’t work. That’s the level of reliability that I expect.
I see plastic bags over pump handles way more than 0.01% of the time. In fact over the last year I've had more experiences with gas pumps being broken than EV dispensers not working.
I say this as an exclusively EV driver for 5+ years myself... let's not defend the indefensible (EA's CCS network).
I just spent a week with a Chevy Bolt while one of our family cars was in the shop. The good: nice small car, everything is pretty easy to use. The meh: without hardware installed in my home, keeping the car charged up for regular family use is problematic. Sometimes there is just not 2 hours to swing by a charging station, and so we spent most of the week with the Bolt showing under 40 miles in range. The bad: hitti…
Whenever I run the numbers to decide between an EV or an ICEV, I get payback periods in the hundreds of years. (I can't charge at home. YMMV.)
Edit: This would change if a battery-swapping industry model were widely adopted. If the battery was not included in the cost of the car but amortized over 10 or 20 years by a swapping station, the NPV of an EV looks much better.
I have an Ioniq 5 and a PHEV pacifica. I love the ioniq5 and do new england road trips with it for skiing. I only have to hunt for fast charging on these longer trips so it's kind of a fun route planning game. I also love having the minivan to take 6 people anywhere and not worry about charging. I have the luxury of picking the right tool for the job. Not everyone else does. After owning an EV I have come to apprecia…
> I only have to hunt for fast charging on these longer trips so it's kind of a fun route planning game. Try the ABRP (a better route planner) app. It will route based on your vehicle and the charging networks you prefer. It’s free unless you want certain features like live headwinds.