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Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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I'm going to go against the grain here and say my YouTube algorithm is great. Signing out of YouTube and viewing the default home page is a reminder of the horrors that lie beyond, but my little corner of it is a bit too good. There was a period of time semi-recently when the algorithm was better than my heuristics, too. I had associated too-good thumbnails with overproduced shallow clickbait videos churned out by co…

The only complaint I have is that the recommendations are too biased towards what I liked or watched very recently. It would be nice to have a setting to adjust that recency weighting. Another, non-algorithm related complaint is that it’s difficult to watch a channel from oldest to newest, that is, keeping track of up to where you’ve already watched within the channel’s history, in order to pick up where you last sto…

You can subscribe to youTube channel pages via RSS. I do this when I don't want to miss a channels videos.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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The lesson I get from all these replies is (shock & horror!): Kids are different . I hear of kids who are intelligent, energetic, curious... all those good things. Probably NURTURE (i.e. the parents) has something to do with that. But then: also NATURE. Not having any kids myself, I'm not going to preach.

The variety in temperament, interests and ability between even siblings varies greatly. The people most eager to share parenting advice is usually parents only one child who is calm and attentive :) I've seen several parents in that category have a second child and come out shocked. I'm believe that beyond a base level of food, clean clothes and love, your influence as a parent is marginal. It's also a wildly unpopul…

A few months of effort at home with our 6yo got him from being well behind in reading to caught up with his classmates. We had no idea he was struggling until his teacher told us.

The effort at home involved gentle encouragement and keeping him focused on the phonics homework. It wasn’t tough on him or us but it has restored his confidence and he’s keeping up with his classmates now.

This is totally the kind of problem that could have festered and led to poor outcomes for him in all of his schooling if we’d ignored it.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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I have had the YT algorithm "hunt me" for a weeks, keep recommending some what looks like a dumb-ass video, only when I finally cave in and watch it, I get it, I needed to see it. The thumbnail and the title didn't did it the opposite of justice. I even tried using the yt api to see if I could scrape the recommendations but they aren't in there. You would have to scrape the browser while logged in.

You need the extension "Clickbait Remover" - it just grabs a random frame from the video and sets it as the thumbnail, will change your youtube life: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/clickbait-remover-...

Thank you for your recommendation. I'm tired in the world of marketing when everyone is trying to invest in click bait instead of making good contents.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Yup, I'm the same. I've totally given up on navigating anything except my home page, I'm actually astonished at how good it is. The newest videos from my favorite channels are always listed first, and then it's a smattering of older popular ones from the topics and channels I watch the most, and a handful of things "adjacent" to those that are sometimes not for me but sometimes become my new favorite rabbit hole, so…

I am hooked as well. (But, please, stop with the YouTube Shorts, I'm just not that into you.)

I don't exactly know where this Shorts trend came from (I guess Tiktok?) but it really destroys the generation / has bad impact. My attention span is encouraged to shrink to only 15 seconds.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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I wonder if the author ever had to deal with "this video is not available in your country" though... The biggest enemy of the "information super highway" that the internet could have become - and, thankfully, in large parts have - is the greed of corporations, manifested in overly broad copyright laws, licensing terms, and TOS.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Youtube is OP right now. People are literally wasting away their lives watching Youtube, for better or worse that's a sure sign your startup worked.

I want to know what the next youtube alternative is going to be. And don't say peertube, you're delusional.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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I'm going to go against the grain here and say my YouTube algorithm is great. Signing out of YouTube and viewing the default home page is a reminder of the horrors that lie beyond, but my little corner of it is a bit too good. There was a period of time semi-recently when the algorithm was better than my heuristics, too. I had associated too-good thumbnails with overproduced shallow clickbait videos churned out by co…

The main problem with Youtube, and almost every other social site, is not the algorithm itself, but that the algorithm is the only way you can interact with that site. The moment you want to do something different, it just doesn't work.

Try watching the old videos of a channel you just discovered, that's 20 clicks and a lot of waiting just to get to the bottom of that endless scroll list. There is no user visible tracking of what you watched, no way to bookmark the end of that list and really nothing you can do than give up.

Don't like the over produced Youtube content and want something that gets to the point quicker? Well, use TikTok, since Youtube has exterminated that style of video quite successfully over the last decade with the help of their algorithm.

Meanwhile Shorts just feels utterly stupid, it's a broken interface with the ability to seek through the video removed. It's just annoying. The irony is that Youtube can display Shorts just like regular video, but you have to do some URL editing to do so. Most Shorts are just parts of full videos anyway, so there isn't even much point in having them. They should have called it YoutubeZap and just be time stamps into the interesting parts of videos that already exist on their site instead of this duplication of content.

Another big problem is how under utilized playlists are. They exist, but since you can't subscribe or pin them, you'll have forgotten that they exist by the time you open up Youtube again.

The algorithm itself also has some big problems, such as never being able to put multipart videos together properly. When you see a video marked with "Part 4", you'd think the other parts would show up, but they don't or when they do it often skips parts.

And of course the algorithm filter bubbles you to an extreme. You get exactly the recommendations for the videos you just watched. It doesn't really try to broaden your horizon. It ignores your subscriptions. And really just doesn't have a way to change directions. The only thing that worked for me was to create different browser profiles with different accounts and switch between them, that keeps recommendations for different topics apart. And whenever I click a wrong video I have to go into the history and clean it up, or the profile is turned into a mess for weeks.

As watch-time optimizer and ad delivery machine the algorithm does a good job. But it really feels like the algorithm is using you, more than the other way around.

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Wikipedia these days... Imagine putting an article there about the "Woke pipeline" or similar.

Here's a NYTimes podcast on the subject. Not really a made up thing on wikipedia: https://www.nytimes.com/column/rabbit-hole

The NYT is very left-wing, so of course they are more willing to support and promote such theories. My point is that similar things could be said about the "woke" just as about the "alt-right", but Wikipedia would never allow such an article.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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I use RSS feeds to follow YouTube channels I enjoy[1]. I absolutely never watch the "Trending" page nor follow the suggestions on the right side of the video.

When I want to search for something, I do, and hope the search algorithm isn't going to screw me over.

[1]: I use Akregator and I can just enter the URL of the YouTube channel for it to find the RSS feed automatically.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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I agree with the author. I just cancelled Spotify and got YouTube Premium and it was an absolutely brilliant decision. Pretty soon I’m going to cancel Netflix and Prime too and just take out the odd month subscription to a streaming service if there’s something I really want to watch. I’m probably better off watching some informative documentary on YT than I am watching Netflix anyway and if I want entertainment, the…

YT helped me learn a lot about software engineering before I had a professional SWE job, but it was nowhere near a replacement for a bit of experience. My first 6mo at a good company was very formative.

It's a supplementary, I'd say.

From my experience, I learn more from a structured material (aka courses, books) and structured process (aka working in a company).

But I often get the motivation and knowledge from unstructured material like YouTube.

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