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Rich Dad Poor Dad... Worst Personal Finance Book of All Time?

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"but it's not necessarily a path to success." Nothing is an absolute guarantee. No matter what the path. "Were repeatedly screwed by business partners and banks" If your parents were "repeatedly" screwed over, they really need to take a look at their own decisions. I was screwed over a few times when I was younger. I learned from my mistakes and don't allow people to screw me over. Your parents might be too honest an…

I really wish that there was a feature that required anyone that down voted a comment to give a reason.

"but it's not necessarily a path to success."

Nothing is an absolute guarantee. No matter what the path.

This is a ridiculous statement. You attempt to defend "business as success" by arguing success is never guaranteed. While being a silly argument, more importantly you seem to completely miss what your parent was talking about- he was not discussing how your business might not be successful, but that for many people, success in business != success in life. In the same way that money != happy.

Re: Rich Dad Poor Dad... Worst Personal Finance Book of All Time?

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"Worst of All Time"? I would have thought one of these would at least be a contender for that title.

"Turning Your Ordinary Photos into Your Lifetime Employees" - http://www.amazon.com/Automated-Income-Ordinary-Employees-eb...

"Getting Started in Property Flipping" - http://www.amazon.com/Getting-Started-Property-Flipping-Thom...

or even: "Watch TV, Get Rich" - http://www.amazon.com/Jim-Cramers-Mad-Money-Watch/dp/1416537...

Re: Rich Dad Poor Dad... Worst Personal Finance Book of All Time?

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Reading self help materials has been one of the major turning points in my life. Without self-help materials I would still have been a somewhat gifted kid but also a total mess of a human being. Thanks to self help I am becoming more and more self-realized every day. I am not going to downvote you, because I am genuinely curious what you have against Ferriss. Care to tell me more?

What self-help materials do you recommend?

There's a lot of different ones of course... off the top of my head: No more Mr Nice Guy by Robert Glover.

I also like Personal development for smart people by Steve Pavlina.

Tom Butler-Bowdon has a series of books that summarize all the major works in psychology/self help/prosperity/success/etc. Those are a good way to get up to speed and learn what's out there in the genre.

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I'm always fascinated as to why people on this board fervently defend scammy self-help books. Tim Ferris' completely phony 4-hour series provoked a similar reaction.

Self-help books are like placebos, they really don't do anything for you but if you read one you'll believe that you can be successful even though most of them are full of platitudes and not much actual content.

But on the other hand I think this is the most important part about them, they give people the feeling that they can succeed which is a necessary ingredient to taking risks to making yourself successful.

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This person severely misread the book. I could give quite a few examples from the writing. For instance, the child labor issue he brings up is ridiculous - "Rich Dad" obviously didn't benefit from this labor in any financial way. The premise of the book is solid; invest in assets that make money for you without you having to be there. He specifically says in the book a few times that he doesn't necessarily advocate r…

"Rich Dad" does seriously advocate real estate, not to the exclusion of those other options but certainly above them. Real estate stands out mostly because of the leverage that a mortgage can provide: you can control the income and appreciation of a $250,000 asset with only $50k of actual capital. You can't get 5-to-1 leverage on stocks or other such passive investments. That said, real estate is certainly no magic b…

5 to 1 margin on stocks is not hard to achieve, it's just more risky than 5 to 1 on a mortgage because your position is marked to market where as mortgages are not marked to market, but are much more illiquid.

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> these books do not offer any recipes for wealth creation Oh but they do: for the authors. The problem with them is that there is little of substance and lots of feel-good hand waving. The good bits could usually be summed up on a page. Compare and contrast, with, say "Founders at Work" where each story is different, unique and interesting in its own way.

Don't forget the ever-present promise that if you give him just twenty more dollars, he'll reveal the secrets to his success. Unfortunately, the secret to his success IS the act of giving him twenty more dollars.

Didn't Tim Ferris found and run a supplement company years before publishing his first 4-hour book?

Re: Rich Dad Poor Dad... Worst Personal Finance Book of All Time?

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Don't forget the ever-present promise that if you give him just twenty more dollars, he'll reveal the secrets to his success. Unfortunately, the secret to his success IS the act of giving him twenty more dollars.

Didn't Tim Ferris found and run a supplement company years before publishing his first 4-hour book?

Tim Ferris founded and ran a Multi-Level Marketing company that sold supplements.

I have no use for anyone or anything that comes from a MLM background.

Re: Rich Dad Poor Dad... Worst Personal Finance Book of All Time?

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I'm always fascinated as to why people on this board fervently defend scammy self-help books. Tim Ferris' completely phony 4-hour series provoked a similar reaction.

Self-help books are like placebos, they really don't do anything for you but if you read one you'll believe that you can be successful even though most of them are full of platitudes and not much actual content. But on the other hand I think this is the most important part about them, they give people the feeling that they can succeed which is a necessary ingredient to taking risks to making yourself successful.

I would think even placebos provide value...

Like a rough economic cycle, picking up a new skill, or learning to program, sometimes I have to slog through something difficult that does not seem to be getting me anywhere before the light bulb goes on and I realize "oh, THAT'S why this whatever is done that way."

What's that other adage? Fake it till you make it?

Re: Rich Dad Poor Dad... Worst Personal Finance Book of All Time?

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I really wish that there was a feature that required anyone that down voted a comment to give a reason.

"but it's not necessarily a path to success." Nothing is an absolute guarantee. No matter what the path. This is a ridiculous statement. You attempt to defend "business as success" by arguing success is never guaranteed. While being a silly argument, more importantly you seem to completely miss what your parent was talking about- he was not discussing how your business might not be successful, but that for many peopl…

"This is a ridiculous statement. You attempt to defend "business as success" by arguing success is never guaranteed."

I thought I was pointing out the obvious, but I guess not. Are you one of those people that believes that if you go to college you automatically get a job at the end? It's not guaranteed, but I would still recommend it because it will help you get a job. You are the one being ridiculous here.

The guy I was replying somehow thinks that the book is a guidebook and a guarantee at success. It's not. I was pointing that out.

"While being a silly argument, more importantly you seem to completely miss what your parent was talking about- he was not discussing how your business might not be successful, but that for many people, success in business != success in life. In the same way that money != happy."

Really? His parents were not successful at business so how can that even be used as an example?

If he was really trying to point something like this out, give me an example of someone that is successful at business but not at life.

From my personal experience, once you figure out what it takes to be successful at business, you will be successful at many other things in life.

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