Missing from the headline: This appears to be a temporary measure in their new beta client during testing of said client. It appears that they'll unblock wine when the client is out of beta.
Roblox intentionally blocking Linux with Wine in their new update
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Re: Roblox intentionally blocking Linux with Wine in their new update
#12Apparently, this has been done because they're trying to collect telemetry on the use of the 64-bit client, and they want "pure" telemetry from the target OS, not the target OS and instances on other operating systems emulating the target OS ( https://devforum.roblox.com/t/the-new-roblox-64-bit-byfron-c... ). I can see what they're trying to do here, but (a) I've never, personally, been of the opinion that this kind…
If that’s the real reason, can they not hook up whatever method is being used to identify and block Wine as a signal in their telemetry system so they can filter that data in their query? This explanation sounds like either incompetence or an excuse.
Re: Roblox intentionally blocking Linux with Wine in their new update
#13Apparently, this has been done because they're trying to collect telemetry on the use of the 64-bit client, and they want "pure" telemetry from the target OS, not the target OS and instances on other operating systems emulating the target OS ( https://devforum.roblox.com/t/the-new-roblox-64-bit-byfron-c... ). I can see what they're trying to do here, but (a) I've never, personally, been of the opinion that this kind…
If that’s the real reason, can they not hook up whatever method is being used to identify and block Wine as a signal in their telemetry system so they can filter that data in their query? This explanation sounds like either incompetence or an excuse.
They can. So yes, you're spot on.
Re: Roblox intentionally blocking Linux with Wine in their new update
#14Sounds like it's time to get familiar with the wine-staging options to hide wine-specific exports: https://github.com/Winetricks/winetricks/blob/b46dd63e024a16...
...and thus, the next round of the cat-and-mouse game begins. Things like this will only make WINE's own compatibility and indistinguishability from Windows increase, so it's not all bad.
this is a game that Wine cannot win simply by virtue of the fact that one can do checksums to validate that Microsoft's non-free code isn't present in the Wine environment.
Re: Roblox intentionally blocking Linux with Wine in their new update
#15When my oldest kid was young, I was on Linux. I tried a few times to get it to work so I could play with him but never could get it to run quite right. Because I couldn't play with him, Roblox itself became a constant source of arguments. Hours-long shouting and crying kind of arguments. All discussion was around Robux and the ridiculous money-grabs everywhere in the ecosystem. For years, I absolutely hated Roblox be…
> All discussion was around Robux and the ridiculous money-grabs everywhere in the ecosystem. For years, I absolutely hated Roblox because of it.
I would suggest a (re)watch of this pair of videos from People Make Games:
Investigation: How Roblox Is Exploiting Young Game Developers - https://youtu.be/_gXlauRB1EQ
Roblox Pressured Us to Delete Our Video. So We Dug Deeper. - https://youtu.be/vTMF6xEiAaY
Re: Roblox intentionally blocking Linux with Wine in their new update
#16> Unfortunately this block was intentional. With the Windows 64-bit client launch we made the conscious decision to block the use of Wine. > First and most importantly, we are not trying to punish the use of Wine. Not punishing, but certainly showing a callous disregard for them. You did this deliberately, and they had to come to the forums to find out?
Punishing
I don't get why people often feel the need to sugar-coat this.
Re: Roblox intentionally blocking Linux with Wine in their new update
#17When my oldest kid was young, I was on Linux. I tried a few times to get it to work so I could play with him but never could get it to run quite right. Because I couldn't play with him, Roblox itself became a constant source of arguments. Hours-long shouting and crying kind of arguments. All discussion was around Robux and the ridiculous money-grabs everywhere in the ecosystem. For years, I absolutely hated Roblox be…
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Re: Roblox intentionally blocking Linux with Wine in their new update
#18Time to move up from Roblox. If you're over 13, you're already on the way out of its demographic, anyway.
Re: Roblox intentionally blocking Linux with Wine in their new update
#19Apparently, this has been done because they're trying to collect telemetry on the use of the 64-bit client, and they want "pure" telemetry from the target OS, not the target OS and instances on other operating systems emulating the target OS ( https://devforum.roblox.com/t/the-new-roblox-64-bit-byfron-c... ). I can see what they're trying to do here, but (a) I've never, personally, been of the opinion that this kind…
Wine Roblox players may be such a microscopic piece of user base that they consciously don’t care.
Re: Roblox intentionally blocking Linux with Wine in their new update
#20Apparently, this has been done because they're trying to collect telemetry on the use of the 64-bit client, and they want "pure" telemetry from the target OS, not the target OS and instances on other operating systems emulating the target OS ( https://devforum.roblox.com/t/the-new-roblox-64-bit-byfron-c... ). I can see what they're trying to do here, but (a) I've never, personally, been of the opinion that this kind…
Wine Roblox players may be such a microscopic piece of user base that they consciously don’t care.
They cared enough to implement detection and blocking.