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Lego breaks ground on first US manufacturing facility

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Re: Lego breaks ground on first US manufacturing facility

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It’s highly automated but you still need people to watch the machines. Many Lego factory videos are available. If this lets them source much of the plastic locally, it will save on millions of boxes being shipped across the ocean. That’s a huge reduction in carbon, even if the local manufacturing costs a bit more.

Let's not pretend they care about the reduction in carbon. They'd only care about reduced shipping costs.

Their product is literally made out of oil.

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Interesting learnings for me from this article: - Lego operates multiple $1B+ factories around the world - they are not just a design and marketing company - 1400 manufacturing jobs in Virginia expected - not just an automated thing. Anyone know what changed economically to justify the high US labor costs? Particularly compared to MX - 100% Carbon neutral via on-site Solar in Virginia (not particularly sunny). No off…

> 100% Carbon neutral via on-site Solar in Virginia (not particularly sunny). No offsets shenanigans. I appreciate no offset shenanigans but did they factor in the fact that their product is made out of petroleum?

I'd argue this is one of the okay uses for petroleum as it's converted directly into a high value product and not emitted as pollution. I assume people don't do a lot of throwing away of Lego bricks. Going into the future I predict petroleum will be used to make material products a lot longer than it's used to make fuel. Even after we stop mining petroleum we'll still be turning farm crops into the same material.

Re: Lego breaks ground on first US manufacturing facility

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IIUC it's complicated. Because the grid is, fundamentally, still storage-starved (though that's been improving in recent years), even with export the CA energy companies run into grid over-saturation problems on clear, sunny days. Eventually losses catch up with you pushing the power geographically far enough; they couldn't, for example, power the entire United States off of enough California solar. So I naively susp…

Ultra high voltage lines can reach all the way to the east coast with 10% losses and supposedly about 10 cents per kWh for construction and maintenance. And that's AC, which HVDC might beat. So it seems to me like you could power the US off california solar if they had enough.

That’s pretty incredible to think about. I didn’t think that was feasible.

Re: Lego breaks ground on first US manufacturing facility

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>”We are working hard to reduce emissions at the Lego Group and are really excited about our plans to build this solar plant as we push towards a better world for our children to inherit,” So they are offsetting all emissions by using solar power? Or is the solar a tangible bone to gnaw on while they make the typical meaningless moves like sponsoring a forest somewhere?

All emissions, unlikely. They'd need a battery at least. Some, like daytime lighting, air conditioning some other electricity use, quite possibly. Why do you think forests are meaningless? They lock up some carbon, and produce some oxygen, and also usually lower the air temperature around.

> Why do you think forests are meaningless?

I didn’t say this and don’t think it.

Re: Lego breaks ground on first US manufacturing facility

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The point still stands: By no reasonable definition is Lego the largest manufacturer of tires.

they produce the most tires? they’re incredibly small tires but there’s still a lot of them and they’re definitely tires.

they may be tires, but they're not pneus, mon ami

Re: Lego breaks ground on first US manufacturing facility

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1. Yes, absolutely. There are very few developed countries with large population centres on or adjacent to strong solar potential, and fewer again if you limit them by others stuff Lego is looking for (e.g. workforce compatibility, market access). 2. That's probably true, but the US labour market is simultaneously huge, flexible, and well-educated. That gives it an advantage over most competitors.

Is this well educated labour force the part of the voter base of the two biggest parties across the pond? if yes then I wish the very best to the manufacturing trials there. We already have seen the quality of Us manufacturing recently with Tesla cars. The times that made in America was synonymous with good quality are long gone.

We make pretty good Hondas and Toyotas, though. My household has a 20 year old Camry from Kentucky that starts practically every time you crank it (except when the battery is too old).

Re: Lego breaks ground on first US manufacturing facility

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A little local color from a resident of Virginia (Charlottesville): Late last year Virginia's Governor Youngkin took significant heat in the legislature and media for quashing a Chinese battery factory that was set to locate in the state. https://www.virginiamercury.com/2023/01/12/youngkin-halted-f... https://www.virginiabusiness.com/article/democrats-call-out-... He said that supporting China's venture was not in th…

What are you suggesting? Lego isn’t a Chinese company.

Re: Lego breaks ground on first US manufacturing facility

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Hopefully all American employees get the same treatment as European employees, rather than hiring a bunch of US-entrenched management and having them go "well this is an American plant, so we don't have to give you a minimum number of vacation days, and we only need to wage gauge you a tiny bit less than other companies in this space int he US for you to feel like we're treating you well". It's so easy to open a plan…

It is striking how quickly the US turned into a backwater for all types of labor.

Do you include professional jobs in “all types of labor?” Software Engineer?

Re: Lego breaks ground on first US manufacturing facility

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I wish Lego would just stick to Lego classic. I don't like having to check all the pieces in a themed set are present when putting them back in the box after my child's finished with it. It's difficult to reuse the pieces for other ideas because I can't just commingle them with other sets because finding the pieces again to build that themed set would be more difficult. Just following instructions has limited value a…

I always had to clean up my own lego and if I got parts mixed and wanted to rebuild from the instructions later, you better believe I had to dig around for hours (probably less than 10 minutes, but I was a kid ;)) to find it.

Re: Lego breaks ground on first US manufacturing facility

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What's striking is that every time I talk about moving to Europe I have to cut my salary expectations in half. Talk about backwater expectations.

Then perhaps you're being paid too much compared to the other people in society

Or maybe 30k for a new grad software engineer in London is a joke.

What is your salary? Salary transparency empowers us all.

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