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Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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I'm glad that the home page is semi-stable because I'll often click on a video and then go back and want to queue up another that looked interesting but if it were gone it might be hard to find again. (Yes there are strategies to work around this but I don't always use them). They do have the "New to You" category on the home page now which you might find useful.

i had this happen to me. ive lost videos I wanted to see when i clicked one instead of another.

That's what watch later is for though.

I keep getting recommended the same damn set to videos which I've passed over a hundred times. Not sure why the "algorithm" is getting so much love, it's got some attributes that are pretty clearly crap.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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I never log in. I block all YT cookies. I use Enhancer for YouTube, Clickbait Remover for Youtube, and uBO. I never ever visit YT home page. I have a self-curated shortlist of channels that interest me enough to keep up with, via local bookmarks/notes. No ads. No clickbait faces/emoji/etc. No distracting annotations/cards/referrals. No shorts. No auto play. The list goes on. When used in this manner, YT is amazing. H…

There’s free with ads and premium without ads, what else could you want out of a business model?

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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I'm going to go against the grain here and say my YouTube algorithm is great. Signing out of YouTube and viewing the default home page is a reminder of the horrors that lie beyond, but my little corner of it is a bit too good. There was a period of time semi-recently when the algorithm was better than my heuristics, too. I had associated too-good thumbnails with overproduced shallow clickbait videos churned out by co…

I am... OK with the Youtube algorithm. I find that it is pretty good at this point at not giving me stuff I find awful. However, I think it has lost a lot of ground in helping me find newer, more obscure topics that I'd also find interesting, compared to where it was 5-6 years ago. Overall I think Youtube IS a jewel of the Internet. The amount of astoundingly interesting, informative, entertaining, educational, insig…

YouTube is like 10% of Alphabets profits and there are thousands of creators relying on it for a living. Anecdotal but the creators I follow all talk about YouTube giving them a much better monetization strategy than any other platform. So I don't think this will be any time soon

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right_pipeline

Wikipedia these days... Imagine putting an article there about the "Woke pipeline" or similar.

Here's a NYTimes podcast on the subject. Not really a made up thing on wikipedia: https://www.nytimes.com/column/rabbit-hole

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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The right choice was clearly option 3: “hey high school student, I’ve built something that I sincerely hope can help and I would be most grateful for any feedback”

I appreciate your opinion, for sure. I wonder why you don’t consider 2 to be the “right” choice if the goal was not to bias the answer, which 3 does. Just as 3 seems clear to you, 2 seems clear to me. Have you heard of tainting a jury pool, or biasing the answers?

Companies usually do focus groups for this kind of thing. And that kind of research usually involves a consent form and a research firm independent of the company...

Mixing all these metaphors isn't helping. It's like you're flailing for some justification. You act like you're sure you're in the right, but you keep fighting with people. You could just move on without digging any deeper. It's long past obvious your arguments aren't persuasive. This isn't the behavior of someone who's genuinely that confident.

You might not think a thread deep in HN matters, but I will remember it if any teacher friends mention your app.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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I'm going to go against the grain here and say my YouTube algorithm is great. Signing out of YouTube and viewing the default home page is a reminder of the horrors that lie beyond, but my little corner of it is a bit too good. There was a period of time semi-recently when the algorithm was better than my heuristics, too. I had associated too-good thumbnails with overproduced shallow clickbait videos churned out by co…

My YouTube subscription is worth 2x what I pay for Netflix and recently costs half as much. I'm happy YouTube figured out their algorithm.

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I never log in. I block all YT cookies. I use Enhancer for YouTube, Clickbait Remover for Youtube, and uBO. I never ever visit YT home page. I have a self-curated shortlist of channels that interest me enough to keep up with, via local bookmarks/notes. No ads. No clickbait faces/emoji/etc. No distracting annotations/cards/referrals. No shorts. No auto play. The list goes on. When used in this manner, YT is amazing. H…

I think content "embed-ability" is a core feature of YTs success. It makes matching content much easier. Like embedding relevant videos in a stock dashboard. https://app.finclout.io/p/C

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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I am... OK with the Youtube algorithm. I find that it is pretty good at this point at not giving me stuff I find awful. However, I think it has lost a lot of ground in helping me find newer, more obscure topics that I'd also find interesting, compared to where it was 5-6 years ago. Overall I think Youtube IS a jewel of the Internet. The amount of astoundingly interesting, informative, entertaining, educational, insig…

YouTube is like 10% of Alphabets profits and there are thousands of creators relying on it for a living. Anecdotal but the creators I follow all talk about YouTube giving them a much better monetization strategy than any other platform. So I don't think this will be any time soon

Twitter's recently rolled out their ad revenue sharing arrangement and it's a 20% margin (under $50k is 3%) vs YouTube's 45%. Maybe low balling the early days to build traction? Also people probably aren't consuming 1 person's Twitter the way they consume Youtube channels.

https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/creator-dashboard

Still it will be interesting to see how many hundreds/thousands of mom & pop careers will be built off Twitter now.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Yup, I'm the same. I've totally given up on navigating anything except my home page, I'm actually astonished at how good it is. The newest videos from my favorite channels are always listed first, and then it's a smattering of older popular ones from the topics and channels I watch the most, and a handful of things "adjacent" to those that are sometimes not for me but sometimes become my new favorite rabbit hole, so…

I have had the YT algorithm "hunt me" for a weeks, keep recommending some what looks like a dumb-ass video, only when I finally cave in and watch it, I get it, I needed to see it. The thumbnail and the title didn't did it the opposite of justice. I even tried using the yt api to see if I could scrape the recommendations but they aren't in there. You would have to scrape the browser while logged in.

You need the extension "Clickbait Remover" - it just grabs a random frame from the video and sets it as the thumbnail, will change your youtube life:

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/clickbait-remover-...

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