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Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by alonsonic » Sun, Apr 23, 2023, 10:04 PM UTC

tambourine_man wrote: post #70

Another great thing about YouTube not mentioned is the quality of comments. Something happened in the last 5 years or so that changed them profoundly. Once the laugh of the internet they are now one of the most wholesome in it. Almost unbelievable for a public site.

I'm fascinated by this. I feel the same way. Do we know if The YouTube team if ordering comments using some sort of sentiment analysis? This might be the key to moderating social media. Is almost like negative/toxic comments are shadow banned and relegated to the bottom of the comments section.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by durandal1 » Sun, Apr 23, 2023, 10:04 PM UTC

AlbertCory wrote: post #91

irrational wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they had a youth where they could spend their entire time learning literally everything there is to know about their passion for free I have children between the ages of 9 and 26. You know what they are passionate about? Minecraft, Mr Beast, Travel vlogs, mommy vlogs, “reality” videos, etc. I’ve tried to introduce them to science, space, programming, history, math, finance, nature, etc. content and they don’t want…

The lesson I get from all these replies is (shock & horror!): Kids are different . I hear of kids who are intelligent, energetic, curious... all those good things. Probably NURTURE (i.e. the parents) has something to do with that. But then: also NATURE. Not having any kids myself, I'm not going to preach.

The variety in temperament, interests and ability between even siblings varies greatly. The people most eager to share parenting advice is usually parents only one child who is calm and attentive :) I've seen several parents in that category have a second child and come out shocked.

I'm believe that beyond a base level of food, clean clothes and love, your influence as a parent is marginal. It's also a wildly unpopular but intelligence is highly genetic (at least 50% of outcome determined by genes).

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by ur-whale » Sun, Apr 23, 2023, 10:05 PM UTC

irrational wrote: post #17

rcarr wrote: post #9

I agree with the author. I just cancelled Spotify and got YouTube Premium and it was an absolutely brilliant decision. Pretty soon I’m going to cancel Netflix and Prime too and just take out the odd month subscription to a streaming service if there’s something I really want to watch. I’m probably better off watching some informative documentary on YT than I am watching Netflix anyway and if I want entertainment, the…

> they had a youth where they could spend their entire time learning literally everything there is to know about their passion for free I have children between the ages of 9 and 26. You know what they are passionate about? Minecraft, Mr Beast, Travel vlogs, mommy vlogs, “reality” videos, etc. I’ve tried to introduce them to science, space, programming, history, math, finance, nature, etc. content and they don’t want…

> They are passionate about cheap mindless entertainment.

Everyone hopes that their kids will be exceptional.

You just have normal kids, get over it.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by GalenErso » Sun, Apr 23, 2023, 10:06 PM UTC

WanderPanda wrote: post #99

mastax wrote: post #81

I'm going to go against the grain here and say my YouTube algorithm is great. Signing out of YouTube and viewing the default home page is a reminder of the horrors that lie beyond, but my little corner of it is a bit too good. There was a period of time semi-recently when the algorithm was better than my heuristics, too. I had associated too-good thumbnails with overproduced shallow clickbait videos churned out by co…

Watching one „wrong“ video can mess everything up for a couple of weeks though, which always gives me some level of anxiety :D

I open Incognito mode when I'm about to watch a video like that.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by kevingadd » Sun, Apr 23, 2023, 10:07 PM UTC

WanderPanda wrote: post #99

mastax wrote: post #81

I'm going to go against the grain here and say my YouTube algorithm is great. Signing out of YouTube and viewing the default home page is a reminder of the horrors that lie beyond, but my little corner of it is a bit too good. There was a period of time semi-recently when the algorithm was better than my heuristics, too. I had associated too-good thumbnails with overproduced shallow clickbait videos churned out by co…

Watching one „wrong“ video can mess everything up for a couple of weeks though, which always gives me some level of anxiety :D

You can usually go into your history and remove it to fix it.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by ur-whale » Sun, Apr 23, 2023, 10:07 PM UTC

tambourine_man wrote: post #64

Why didn’t the author linked to the examples he cites? It’s almost cruel.

> Why didn’t the author linked to the examples he cites?

And generate traffic and revenue for another company without getting a cut?

You gotta be kidding, right?

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by Kye » Sun, Apr 23, 2023, 10:07 PM UTC

EGreg wrote: post #95

Kye wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's good form to say you're the person behind the thing you're recommending. Making stuff to solve problems is the point of most of the domain this little website is under, so self-promotion is fine, but not saying that's what it is looks bad.

Right. But I'm not promoting it. I am definitely NOT recommending it. It isn’t even launched. I was attempting to ask in an unbiased way whether it would help. That would require one person (the one I am asking) to go and check it out. Yes, I omitted saying it's mine, not because of any nefarious reason. Just didn't realize it was necessary to simply ask an opinion of one person about whether it would have the intend…

That's promotion, though. It would be promotion if you didn't make it. I've been accused of being a shill for enough things I was enthusiastic about to be 100% sure of this. And since you did make it, it's hard to argue you don't benefit in some way from sharing it. That's why disclosure is good form.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by crazygringo » Sun, Apr 23, 2023, 10:07 PM UTC

mastax wrote: post #81

I'm going to go against the grain here and say my YouTube algorithm is great. Signing out of YouTube and viewing the default home page is a reminder of the horrors that lie beyond, but my little corner of it is a bit too good. There was a period of time semi-recently when the algorithm was better than my heuristics, too. I had associated too-good thumbnails with overproduced shallow clickbait videos churned out by co…

Yup, I'm the same. I've totally given up on navigating anything except my home page, I'm actually astonished at how good it is.

The newest videos from my favorite channels are always listed first, and then it's a smattering of older popular ones from the topics and channels I watch the most, and a handful of things "adjacent" to those that are sometimes not for me but sometimes become my new favorite rabbit hole, so I'm very thankful they're there. (For me it's a lot of educational content like architecture tours and urban engineering and how-it's-made, plus content from certain comedians and sketch comedy groups.)

I know there's supposed to be a bunch of clickbait garbage on YouTube but I just wouldn't know, because I literally never see it.

(Plus there are new tabs at the top that actually list the topics it's learned I like, so if I want to see 20 architecture videos instead of just 2, it's a single tap to filter. It's remarkably clever.)

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by irrational » Sun, Apr 23, 2023, 10:09 PM UTC

SnowHill9902 wrote: post #24

irrational wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they had a youth where they could spend their entire time learning literally everything there is to know about their passion for free I have children between the ages of 9 and 26. You know what they are passionate about? Minecraft, Mr Beast, Travel vlogs, mommy vlogs, “reality” videos, etc. I’ve tried to introduce them to science, space, programming, history, math, finance, nature, etc. content and they don’t want…

It’s your responsibility to guide them.

Like I said, you can bring a horse to water, but you can’t make them drink. Agency is a double edged sword.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by makapuf » Sun, Apr 23, 2023, 10:10 PM UTC

menzoic wrote: post #52

rcarr wrote: post #9

I agree with the author. I just cancelled Spotify and got YouTube Premium and it was an absolutely brilliant decision. Pretty soon I’m going to cancel Netflix and Prime too and just take out the odd month subscription to a streaming service if there’s something I really want to watch. I’m probably better off watching some informative documentary on YT than I am watching Netflix anyway and if I want entertainment, the…

> No other generation in history has had such an opportunity. I'm a milllenial that learned how to code at 14 using the internet. To be fair to your point about "free" I did use pirated software and a few pirated video courses

At 14 I learned to code for "free" - minus very expensive computer m y parents bought and a pirated copy of turbo pascal and computer magazines. Magazines and books were not as good but remember Internet made some other resources disappear or rendered them less visible.