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Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by mastax »

I'm going to go against the grain here and say my YouTube algorithm is great. Signing out of YouTube and viewing the default home page is a reminder of the horrors that lie beyond, but my little corner of it is a bit too good.

There was a period of time semi-recently when the algorithm was better than my heuristics, too. I had associated too-good thumbnails with overproduced shallow clickbait videos churned out by content mills and "grindset" individuals. But at some point basically everybody started optimizing their titles and thumbnails and some of the stuff the algorithm was suggesting was actually good even though it looked "too flashy."

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by SteveDR »

chongli wrote: post #76
grensley wrote: post #63

I think YouTube will really struggle to figure out how to weigh lowest common denominator content that does well with personalized recommendation that satisfy some deeper intellectual curiosity. I'm already finding it's a kind of "work" to keep the geopolitical and economics content that makes me feel like YouTube is a positive for me on the front page over shorts and sports montages. Maybe my algorithms just in a ba…

I’m a very strict curator of my watch history. If I ever succumb to click bait and click on some video I immediately regret, I go into my watch history and delete the offending video. This puts an immediate stop to any recommendations of similar videos. I recommend it to everyone!

I use a second account to watch videos that i think will muck with my recommendations in any way I don’t like. Comedy, political news, music videos, etc… it’s nice to have a separate feed that gets my taste in these things without distracting my main algorithm from focusing on my deeper interests

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by [deleted] »

wildrhythms wrote: post #35
yodsanklai wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They can literally leave school and already be professionally competent. I really wonder about that. Learning anything requires active participation and motivation. YouTube provides great content, but I'd say it's the easy part. BTW, public libraries existed before youtube. My personal example, I graduated in maths 20 years ago and spent countless hours solving problems. Nowadays, I'm a youtube addict, I casually w…

School is less about learning a subject to any serious degree, and more about socialization and exposure to a breadth of subjects. I am suspect of people who view school purely as an educational experience.

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Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by logicallee »

(via Google): Nearly 17 years ago, Google purchased YouTube for the hefty sum of $1.65 billion. The actual date the news hit was Oct. 9, 2006. The transaction closed on Nov 13, 2006.

Can you imagine if there had been any snag in the paperwork or with the legal team or the deal fell through?

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

#85

Post by spydum »

chongli wrote: post #76
grensley wrote: post #63

I think YouTube will really struggle to figure out how to weigh lowest common denominator content that does well with personalized recommendation that satisfy some deeper intellectual curiosity. I'm already finding it's a kind of "work" to keep the geopolitical and economics content that makes me feel like YouTube is a positive for me on the front page over shorts and sports montages. Maybe my algorithms just in a ba…

I’m a very strict curator of my watch history. If I ever succumb to click bait and click on some video I immediately regret, I go into my watch history and delete the offending video. This puts an immediate stop to any recommendations of similar videos. I recommend it to everyone!

same, single greatest control of what it recommends. sometimes i will go off on a tangent, but i dont want it populating my feed, so i'll prune the history, and it's perfectly happy.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by dmreedy »

inkywatcher wrote: post #67
wildrhythms wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

School is less about learning a subject to any serious degree, and more about socialization and exposure to a breadth of subjects. I am suspect of people who view school purely as an educational experience.

You say "socialization" but I think the real word is "conformity".

Yes, societal institutions have a flywheel effect of normalization on those who pass through them. This is foundational to a cooperative society. They provide a background context to evaluate actions within, and define oneself in, or against.

Consider your Shannon Information. Meaning does not exist without context.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by gambiting »

mastax wrote: post #81

I'm going to go against the grain here and say my YouTube algorithm is great. Signing out of YouTube and viewing the default home page is a reminder of the horrors that lie beyond, but my little corner of it is a bit too good. There was a period of time semi-recently when the algorithm was better than my heuristics, too. I had associated too-good thumbnails with overproduced shallow clickbait videos churned out by co…

Same here. I pretty much only watch car channels and some meme compilations and that's exactly what YouTube shows me, nothing else.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by imbnwa »

wildrhythms wrote: post #35
yodsanklai wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They can literally leave school and already be professionally competent. I really wonder about that. Learning anything requires active participation and motivation. YouTube provides great content, but I'd say it's the easy part. BTW, public libraries existed before youtube. My personal example, I graduated in maths 20 years ago and spent countless hours solving problems. Nowadays, I'm a youtube addict, I casually w…

School is less about learning a subject to any serious degree, and more about socialization and exposure to a breadth of subjects. I am suspect of people who view school purely as an educational experience.

Socialization is an artifact, not the purpose, of most modern schooling in America; not like kids weren't socializing in mines and factories, though they likely had way more sense of consequence for their behavior in those environments. That said, education is also secondary except for, in urban public schools at least, the tier of students that are filtered for to benefit.
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