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I’m ready to trade in my electric car

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Re: I’m ready to trade in my electric car

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post #37

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> and we can get 500+ mile ranges Huge waste when the average driver goes for The 200+ miles of range are more than enough for most people, lugging 1000%+ of the average range "just in case" is crazy, epecially given the weight of these things

Eh, let the customer decide what is/isn't wasteful.

It worked so well in the past...

Re: I’m ready to trade in my electric car

#82

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Happy for you, but your experience is not the norm. https://twitter.com/RateYourCharge

The norm is honestly that over 90% of the time, there are no issues. The thing is, when there is an issue, it’s at minimum a huge pain in the ass, and a complete nightmare at worst.

I have been to electrify america stations twice. One had a broken charger at once of the two super fast stalls. The second time I had to wait in line because it was full, and then when I got in the card reader wasn't working. I had to install the app to be able to pay and get electricity. It was very stressful as we thought we might be totally effed.

Compared to Tesla, where you just pull up and plug in. No app, no card reader. It just works. I've encountered 1 bad stall out of like 50 visits to superchargers, and since there are typically 10 to 20 stalls it wasn't a big deal.

Re: I’m ready to trade in my electric car

#83
post #70

I think part of the problem here is that the public and government officials don't treat lack of charging infrastructure and broken chargers as an emergency. If a tree falls across a major road, you can bet there will be work crews showing up within hours to cut it up and move it aside to restore access, because a road with a tree across it doesn't function as a road anymore. We should treat lack of working charging…

Ideally EV owners would obtain a permit before blocking a highway. I would expect the violence to come from the state.

Re: I’m ready to trade in my electric car

#84
post #64

Last week found myself in Palm Beach with my hybrid mini. Driving down was almost out of gas but thought, I'll just get there, meet my partner and buy gas later. Next day found a place to charge but only have 17 miles on a good day. But assumed that would be enough to get me to a gas station. But the gas shortages because of flooding in port everglades extended even up to Palm Beach. They only got four inches of rain…

Get a TeslaTap. I used one with my Leaf so I could charge off my Tesla charger at home.

http://www.umc-j1772.com/index.php?route=product/product&pro...

When I sold my Leaf and moved across the country I gave mine to a guy charging his Leaf near a supercharger. He was so excited

Re: I’m ready to trade in my electric car

#85
post #48

Specifically, the author's worried there aren't enough charging stations to travel all around the state of California. I know there's efforts to build more charging stations, so that may improve somewhat. But my question is how do you charge an electric car if you live in a small apartment building? If we're all going to drive electric cars in the future, we're going to need viable ways for everybody to charge them.

Indeed. I ultimately ended up purchasing a Toyota Mirai (a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle) for this reason; my apartment has no charging units and my landlord has no plans to install them. There is public charging about an eight minute walk away from me, however, which I did consider when evaluating my car purchase options last summer.

You were worried about electric charging infrastructure, and so bought a hydrogen car instead.

I'm speechless.

Re: I’m ready to trade in my electric car

#86
post #15

This is the chicken and egg issue. No one will build and/or maintain chargers unless there are lots of EVs. No one will buy EVs unless charging stations are easy to find/use. I do not know why the US Gov did not choose to subsidize existing Gas Stations to build these. Instead they are putting these in places that are close to impossible to find. I have said this before, until charging is as convenient and fast as ge…

Charging is more convenient than going to a gas station to get gas. 90% of charging happens at home.

Maybe in Calif, the whole world does not live in Calif.

The closest charging station to me is about 20/30 miles away. So EVs are out of the question. And this is true or even worse for many places.

Re: I’m ready to trade in my electric car

#87
post #70

I think part of the problem here is that the public and government officials don't treat lack of charging infrastructure and broken chargers as an emergency. If a tree falls across a major road, you can bet there will be work crews showing up within hours to cut it up and move it aside to restore access, because a road with a tree across it doesn't function as a road anymore. We should treat lack of working charging…

Do gas stations get treated the same?

Re: I’m ready to trade in my electric car

#88
For ~95% of people, there's no issue.

For the few that do very long trips, and where a route planning app says it's genuinely not possible, then I'd definitely say go back to hybrid or gas.

But for most city drivers just going to work and back, overnight charging and basically never fast charging is the way to go.

Re: I’m ready to trade in my electric car

#89

I just spent a week with a Chevy Bolt while one of our family cars was in the shop. The good: nice small car, everything is pretty easy to use. The meh: without hardware installed in my home, keeping the car charged up for regular family use is problematic. Sometimes there is just not 2 hours to swing by a charging station, and so we spent most of the week with the Bolt showing under 40 miles in range. The bad: hitti…

Exactly my experience with Enyaq in Europe. Now add unique and stupid applications for each charger which were probably made by a guy with phd in Crappiest UX design and regularly broken or incompatible chargers (yep, same CCS plug but car will refuse it...) and I am really skeptical to any BEV future.

Re: I’m ready to trade in my electric car

#90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Happy for you, but your experience is not the norm. https://twitter.com/RateYourCharge

The norm is honestly that over 90% of the time, there are no issues. The thing is, when there is an issue, it’s at minimum a huge pain in the ass, and a complete nightmare at worst.

If you have better data than them feel free to post it. Only 50% of attempts to charge at EA succeed without a problem according to their chart.
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