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Specifically the author is talking about a non-Tesla EV, one that had the known defect of lack of a proper charging infrastructure at point of purchase. Nothing to see here. [Talking about Teslas and “EVs” as if they are the same category is like talking about Computer Science and “STEM” in a single category. Often disingenuous and draws the wrong conclusion.]
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Anecdotally, even in Tesla heavy Northern California supercharger wait times are often zero or close to zero unless you consistently hit the peak times. I don’t know if you have stats or bad first hand experience or simply generalizing reports from holiday peak times off hand. The expansion of superchargers to non-Teslas may indeed cause problems. So far I have seen perhaps one total non-Tesla vehicle. If anything, t…
The implication that Teslas were somehow superior and outside the category of other EVs. I don’t hate Teslas; I just consider them another EV, with some pros (the supercharger network) and some cons. Elon and the FSD nonsense is one such con. I only brought it up because he just promised it again by the end of this year, and it set off a spate of people going “Tesla is the best” when we’ve all seen this story before.…
Now when it comes to specific physical features on the car or something, I don’t know, haven’t been following that very closely.
Once newer high density batteries make it into cars and we can get 500+ mile ranges I think it will help with a lot of these concerns. When your car's range is longer than most people are willing or able to drive in a single day then you can charge overnight at your destination without worrying about finding charging stations on the road.
> and we can get 500+ mile ranges Huge waste when the average driver goes for The 200+ miles of range are more than enough for most people, lugging 1000%+ of the average range "just in case" is crazy, epecially given the weight of these things
Next day found a place to charge but only have 17 miles on a good day. But assumed that would be enough to get me to a gas station.
But the gas shortages because of flooding in port everglades extended even up to Palm Beach. They only got four inches of rain not the two plus feet that they got in Miami and no flooding. But, still were affected. I went to a dozen gas stations and called a few, and they had no clue when they would have gas.
We circled around different charging stations within ten or fifteen miles heading north. It was crazy.
We checked again a few hours later and there was a station that had gas.
Feels like climate change might make it complicated for both EV only and gas only. Hybrid seems like the right option but even that was complicated. My mini doesn't use the same plugs as the Tesla chargers. Oh well.
At the moment, ONLY Tesla has decent supercharging (i.e., fast-charging) infrastructure in the US: https://www.tesla.com/findus I regularly go on ~300-mile drives that need only a single charging stop, lasting 15-20 minutes, on my Tesla EV. By the time I've gone to the bathroom and gotten a drink, the supercharger has added 100-150+ miles of range and the EV is ready to go. All the stalls always work. No other EV bra…
I’ve had zero issues charging either my Lucid Air or my Ioniq 5.
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Anecdotally, even in Tesla heavy Northern California supercharger wait times are often zero or close to zero unless you consistently hit the peak times. I don’t know if you have stats or bad first hand experience or simply generalizing reports from holiday peak times off hand. The expansion of superchargers to non-Teslas may indeed cause problems. So far I have seen perhaps one total non-Tesla vehicle. If anything, t…
The implication that Teslas were somehow superior and outside the category of other EVs. I don’t hate Teslas; I just consider them another EV, with some pros (the supercharger network) and some cons. Elon and the FSD nonsense is one such con. I only brought it up because he just promised it again by the end of this year, and it set off a spate of people going “Tesla is the best” when we’ve all seen this story before.…
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I recently went on a trip where the power was out at our destination for over 24 hours due to a storm. The nearest town was ~20 minutes away and likely did not have any fast charging infrastructure. Even if it did, it's a pretty bad spot to be in, especially if you have young kids. I have been considering getting an electric car but that trip made me realize I'd have to reserve the EV for urban travel only. Otherwise…
I don’t know that it’s wildly impractical. Some people carry battery-powered emergency jump starters for their ICE car. This just seems like the reciprocal backup power solution. Carrying a generator seems very practical to me if you are putting yourself in situations where it could be not just useful but the difference between you being stranded vs self-sufficient. Nobody said that owning an electric vehicle require…
This to me is still the weak link. It’s not just chargers, it’s 30+ minute charge time. As great as electric is, an extra hour in the car on a road-trip with 3 kids is a tough sell. More chargers would help but it’s really battery tech and charge times that need a few more innovations before I’d consider for a car I might take a road trip in.
> As great as electric is, an extra hour in the car on a road-trip with 3 kids is a tough sell. If you’re doing road trips frequently and you absolutely cannot find a charging station that coincides with a lunch break spot and you cannot afford a single extra hour, then sure, this seems like a reason to wait for things to improve. But I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve heard this argument from people who are more…
If a tree falls across a major road, you can bet there will be work crews showing up within hours to cut it up and move it aside to restore access, because a road with a tree across it doesn't function as a road anymore.
We should treat lack of working charging infrastructure the same way: a road without the necessary infrastructure for EVs to traverse it with the confidence that they can charge when they need to isn't a road either.
If EV owners really wanted to press the issue, they could protest by blocking roads. If, say, there's a dozen or so EVs all stuck at one charging station because the chargers are down, they could move their cars to the middle of the adjacent highway and form a roadblock. Unfortunately this isn't safe, as it would probably lead to violence from angry ICE drivers.