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Re: System D

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All of the 'underground' things desperate people do to stay alive, i.e. prostitution

You mean “e.g.”, not “i.e.”. Prostitution is not the only thing people do outside of the purview of the government for income. A more mundane example is working for a restaurant under the table.

I liked their version better. It was more facetious.

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In other words, a ‘hack’

A hack has connotations of laziness though. This is the opposite. The constraints of the situation may call for a ‘hack’ but it’s not an expression of laziness. It is a necessary action provided the circumstances.

Maybe Macgyver'ing it would be a more modern reference. Still pretty dated. Is there a word for what Phineas and Ferb do? That's not a good fit, but still has the same flavor.

Re: System D

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I might be dense, but I really have little idea of what System D _actually_ is in practice after reading this. Can anyone ELI5 what it is in practice? What are some of the ideas that allows one to débrouiller, etc... ?

Be a Marine WRT "adapt and overcome at all costs to accomplish the mission" without mentioning the Marines. The Army did it too, we just didn't have a cool name for it.

Exactly. "Improvise, adapt, and overcome" could be a definition of "Système D".

Re: System D

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I might be dense, but I really have little idea of what System D _actually_ is in practice after reading this. Can anyone ELI5 what it is in practice? What are some of the ideas that allows one to débrouiller, etc... ?

Pratically, it's The A-Team.

Re: System D

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post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A hack has connotations of laziness though. This is the opposite. The constraints of the situation may call for a ‘hack’ but it’s not an expression of laziness. It is a necessary action provided the circumstances.

Maybe Macgyver'ing it would be a more modern reference. Still pretty dated. Is there a word for what Phineas and Ferb do? That's not a good fit, but still has the same flavor.

Yeah it’s a language issue. There have been hacks that did express the idea but “hack” does get used broadly. Macguyvering conveys the concept well but as you say it’s reference is outdated so it’s lost some of its meaning.

Re: System D

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Now I finally know what my Swiss mother-in-law says when the normal tablecloth is dirty and we need to improvise. I thought “oh it’s like Plan B”, but never got why it’s D…. Now I get that D is a euphemism for “out of the shit” (démerde).

One funny thing about it in German speaking countries is this reference in the page:

> Examples for those are Trick 17 [de] in German, Trick 77 in Swiss German

It seems that something got lost in translation or Chinese-Whispered between Germany and Switzerland

Re: System D

#78
Oh, this is what goes in Italian as "l'arte di arrangiarsi" (the art of hacking it, or something like that). Tho it might lack the urgency factor.

It's a very old concept, everything old is new again, I guess.

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> Can anyone ELI5 what it is in practice? What are some of the ideas that allows one to débrouiller, etc... ? Broadly speaking, it refers to one's capability of being smart in a "handy man" field. Your tire is flat and you have nothing to fix it? Take a toothpick and hot glue. That's system D. You have a bottle of wine but nothing to open it? Put the bottom in your shoe and rub it against the wall. That's system D. N…

In other words, a ‘hack’

in India, we would call it a "Jugaad"

Re: System D

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Waiting for Dr. Fegg to comment..

Ha!

(Background: my domain name for 24 years has been systemed.net, my github handle is systemed, etc. All stems from choosing Système D as a demogroup name on the Amstrad CPC back in the 90s, partly because it’s the very essence of demo coding on a constrained machine like the CPC, but also as a riff on the French groups which were called things like Logon System, AST System etc.)

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