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Re: System D

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I might be dense, but I really have little idea of what System D _actually_ is in practice after reading this. Can anyone ELI5 what it is in practice? What are some of the ideas that allows one to débrouiller, etc... ?

Be a Marine WRT "adapt and overcome at all costs to accomplish the mission" without mentioning the Marines.

The Army did it too, we just didn't have a cool name for it.

Re: System D

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post #47

I might be dense, but I really have little idea of what System D _actually_ is in practice after reading this. Can anyone ELI5 what it is in practice? What are some of the ideas that allows one to débrouiller, etc... ?

Well I was raised in French and my dad would use this expression from time to time. (I didn't read the whole wiki page, I'm just answering based on my experience) It meant "being resourceful" & ingenious. Don't always expect someone else to help you in order to achieve something, or don't just give up at the first problem you encounter. e.g. Something is heavy to lift and you expected someone stronger to be there to…

My read from the page was that this term is coupled with a temporal component - the need to think effectively on your feet. Rapidly.

Unfortunately, that's not me. I'm a sit and ruminate kind of person. Oh well, no System D for me.

Re: System D

#53

Not to be confused with systemd[0], a system and service manager for Linux. Which I was kinda surprised to see that the link wasn't about this and almost didn't click on it because I saw the source was wikipedia. Dang, Maybe we can edit the title? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd

That's obviously why it was posted.

Re: System D

#54
Anyone who has ever worked on the production end of Food & Beverage, like Bourdain, knows EXACTLY what Système D entails...

Re: System D

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

fun fact: Thermidor - after which Sauce Thermidor and derived dishes like Lobster Themidor are named, is a month in the French Republican Calendar, specifically: the second month of summer, going approx. from mid-July to mid-August.

Even more fun fact. "Thermidor" as well as the other months on the Republican Calendar don't have any root word. They were made up whole cloth and intended to sound like Greek or Latin.

That may be true for other months, but "therme" is Greek for heat and Thermidor would be the hottest month of the calendar.

Re: System D

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Only vaguely related, but mentioned in the article:

“In Down and Out in Paris and London,[6] George Orwell described the term débrouillard as something the lowest-level kitchen workers, the plongeurs, wanted to be called, indicating that they were people who would get the job done, no matter what.”

Orwell’s best work IMO, if you haven’t read it you should.

Re: System D

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even more fun fact. "Thermidor" as well as the other months on the Republican Calendar don't have any root word. They were made up whole cloth and intended to sound like Greek or Latin.

Autumn: Vendémiaire (from French vendange, derived from Latin vindemia, "vintage"), starting 22, 23, or 24 September Brumaire (from French brume, "mist", from Latin brūma, "winter solstice; winter; winter cold"), starting 22, 23, or 24 October Frimaire (from French frimas, "frost"), starting 21, 22, or 23 November Winter: Nivôse (from Latin nivosus, "snowy"), starting 21, 22, or 23 December Pluviôse (from French pluv…

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Re: System D

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Could be but my understanding is the D stands for débrouiller (se débrouiller = take oneself out of the fog). Kind of like the American "National Awareness Day" where people are encouraged to extract their heads and take note of the people in their surroundings.

I learned the term while learning french, working for Médecins sans Frontières Suisse. It was most definitely translated as démerde, not débrouiller.

I'm french, and both "se débrouiller" and "se démerder" mean exactly the same thing. "se démerder" is just more familiar/foul.

Re: System D

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Anthony Bourdain... recently started watching his show from time to time. Really a bummer that he's gone.

There was a documentary Roadrunner (2021). I haven't seen it.

I'm curious if anyone besides him knew why he did it. Existential loneliness, lack of love, distance from family and others, and purposelessness?

Mostly middle-age and older American men, skewing towards white and lower in income, are dying early by their own initiative. It might explain a fraction of drug overdose and mass murder events.

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