Compromising Garmin Sport Watches: A Deep Dive into GarminOS and Its MonkeyC VM
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Re: Compromising Garmin Sport Watches: A Deep Dive into GarminOS and Its MonkeyC VM
#2Anyone got a recommendation for fitness wearables where you can opt out of having to sign up with an account, and can export data out of it in open/standard formats?
Re: Compromising Garmin Sport Watches: A Deep Dive into GarminOS and Its MonkeyC VM
#3Anyone got a recommendation for fitness wearables where you can opt out of having to sign up with an account, and can export data out of it in open/standard formats?
I'm not aware of any major brands that offer account free service. The problem is that a smart device like this is not worth much without some kind of app ecosystem, app stores generally demand accounts, and browsing app stores from a watch is not exactly ideal.
As far as I know, Tizen smart watches can function well on their own after setting up the account once and I believe cloud synchronization is even optional. However, Tizen for smart watches is a dead end, with Samsung getting back to Android Wearable.
There's PineTime (https://www.pine64.org/pinetime/), which is very barebones but open source. Popular firmware, such as InfiniTime (https://github.com/InfiniTimeOrg/InfiniTime) can also be flashed onto several smart watches available on your favourite Chinese import stores (for example: https://github.com/StarGate01/p8b-infinitime for the Colmi P8).
Re: Compromising Garmin Sport Watches: A Deep Dive into GarminOS and Its MonkeyC VM
#4Anyone got a recommendation for fitness wearables where you can opt out of having to sign up with an account, and can export data out of it in open/standard formats?
Checkout GadgetBridge and their list of supported devices. It runs completely offline. There is differing level of support so make sure to read the details. The mi bands are cheap option that works pretty well. I've got a Skagen (really a fossil) hybrid that works with GadgetBridge, but doesn't support sleep tracking unless you use Skagen's app. But I disabled network access for their app and it works perfectly fine. Would be nice if someone wrote a sleep analysis plugin for GadgetBridge for devices like this that don't do the analysis on the hardware. Pretty happy with the device nonetheless.
Re: Compromising Garmin Sport Watches: A Deep Dive into GarminOS and Its MonkeyC VM
#5Anyone got a recommendation for fitness wearables where you can opt out of having to sign up with an account, and can export data out of it in open/standard formats?
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Re: Compromising Garmin Sport Watches: A Deep Dive into GarminOS and Its MonkeyC VM
#6Anyone got a recommendation for fitness wearables where you can opt out of having to sign up with an account, and can export data out of it in open/standard formats?
I am pretty sure you can use the sports tracking functions in garmin without an account, if not, at least without connecting the watch to a phone. You just need to connect with usb to copy the activity file (.fit) which can be converted to tsv.
regarding the passive tracking I dont have a clue
Re: Compromising Garmin Sport Watches: A Deep Dive into GarminOS and Its MonkeyC VM
#7Anyone got a recommendation for fitness wearables where you can opt out of having to sign up with an account, and can export data out of it in open/standard formats?
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Re: Compromising Garmin Sport Watches: A Deep Dive into GarminOS and Its MonkeyC VM
#8Anyone got a recommendation for fitness wearables where you can opt out of having to sign up with an account, and can export data out of it in open/standard formats?
Garmin I’m fairly certain you can do everything ‘locally’ over usb and a laptop. I think Connect requires an account though
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#9No “user/kernel mode”, yikes, esp when executing third party apps. I guess since all the third party code is executing in a VM, this could be much safer with verification up front and no dynamic code execution.
Re: Compromising Garmin Sport Watches: A Deep Dive into GarminOS and Its MonkeyC VM
#10Anyone got a recommendation for fitness wearables where you can opt out of having to sign up with an account, and can export data out of it in open/standard formats?
Garmin watches work well with the desktop sports tracking program MyTourBook.
I've never had to activate a Garmin watch or register it online in order to use it. Not connecting it to Garmin Services and apps may limit access to 3rd party apps, or at least make it harder to load them load though. (I haven't researched side loading since base features are fine for me).
MyTourBook supports FIT/GPX/TCX/etc, has maps, calendars, charts and activity classification. It's built with Java so can run at least on Windows and Linux. There may be other good programs now, but as of a couple years ago it appeared to be among the better options.
It's open source (and they were supportive of PRs for improving Garmin import).
https://mytourbook.sourceforge.io/mytourbook/index.php
Edit: It's also not limited to Garmin devices. There is support for formats from Suunto, Polar and some other companies. https://mytourbook.sourceforge.io/mytourbook/index.php/docum...
Edit 2: This is with syncing over USB btw.