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Re: Methane may not warm the Earth quite as much as previously thought

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Post by henearkr » Sat, Apr 22, 2023, 4:24 PM UTC

hinkley wrote: post #13

We just had a conversation the other day about climate change and methane, and some people were saying 20x as strong as CO2, and others were saying and sometimes correcting them to 28. According to this article the correct answer is 20. That’s still over an order of magnitude difference. It still doesn’t change the priorities much, it means you can leak 40% more methane from a system before it’s worse that coal, but…

Yes. It doesn't change anything to the problem.

But lots of people will say it does (the climate deniers).

Re: Methane may not warm the Earth quite as much as previously thought

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Post by froggychairs » Sat, Apr 22, 2023, 4:24 PM UTC

thevtm wrote: post #2

We are free to fart outside once more!!

Something something 198Fart

Re: Methane may not warm the Earth quite as much as previously thought

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Post by azan_ » Sat, Apr 22, 2023, 4:25 PM UTC

boomchinolo78 wrote: post #16

quaintdev wrote: post #11

Climate change deniers are going to have field day with this one.

Denier is such a loaded word, call them skeptic. In this case at least, seems their skepticism was warranted.

Climate deniers are not people who discuss whether methane is 28x or 20x as strong as CO2, but rather people that do not believe in global warming (or our responsibility for it) at all; that's not skepticism, that's blind faith.

Re: Methane may not warm the Earth quite as much as previously thought

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Post by henearkr » Sat, Apr 22, 2023, 4:26 PM UTC

ta8903 wrote: post #9

How will this affect internet arguments about going vegan?

It will not affect vegan arguments, it's still true that CH4 is a 20x worse GHG than CO2.

Re: Methane may not warm the Earth quite as much as previously thought

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Apr 22, 2023, 4:26 PM UTC

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Re: Methane may not warm the Earth quite as much as previously thought

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Post by sdfjkl » Sat, Apr 22, 2023, 4:27 PM UTC

cratermoon wrote: post #7

So we're not quite as doomed as previously thought?

Yup. In the sense that the unstoppable guillotine blade is descending slightly slower onto our necks. Yay!

Re: Methane may not warm the Earth quite as much as previously thought

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Post by ta8903 » Sat, Apr 22, 2023, 4:27 PM UTC

hinkley wrote: post #17

ta8903 wrote: post #9

How will this affect internet arguments about going vegan?

The carbon footprint of cows is still horrendous.

Right, that's still true.

Re: Methane may not warm the Earth quite as much as previously thought

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Post by HyperSane » Sat, Apr 22, 2023, 4:27 PM UTC

boomchinolo78 wrote: post #16

quaintdev wrote: post #11

Climate change deniers are going to have field day with this one.

Denier is such a loaded word, call them skeptic. In this case at least, seems their skepticism was warranted.

20x vs 28x worse than CO2 hardly proves them correct.

Re: Methane may not warm the Earth quite as much as previously thought

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Post by SquareWheel » Sat, Apr 22, 2023, 4:27 PM UTC

boomchinolo78 wrote: post #16

quaintdev wrote: post #11

Climate change deniers are going to have field day with this one.

Denier is such a loaded word, call them skeptic. In this case at least, seems their skepticism was warranted.

In the context of scientific skepticism[1], denier or denialism[2] is the correct label.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_skepticism

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denialism

Re: Methane may not warm the Earth quite as much as previously thought

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Post by henearkr » Sat, Apr 22, 2023, 4:28 PM UTC

To be honest, it would be awesome if the title could be change from "Methane may not warm the Earth quite as much as previously thought" to "Methane is 20x worse than CO2 instead of 28x worse".