...and I was forced to switch to a carnivore diet for elimination purposes as some veggies were wreaking havoc on my body. Not sure getting healthier will be even an option in a few years.
Animal meat and milk sales drop in Europe as vegan versions hit record highs
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Re: Animal meat and milk sales drop in Europe as vegan versions hit record highs
#222Vegans of HN: What do you supplement and why? Personally, I supplement VitaminD3 and Iron. And I make sure to eat salad, carrots and avocado every day. I came up with this regime after getting my blood work done and after exactly tracking all my nutritional values for a while and comparing those to the suggested amounts. I also have a long running project in the "statistics of one" space, where I track a lot of treat…
Personally I take a vegan supplement that contains b12, iron, d3 and zink. I also eat algae oil for the omega3.
I also make sure to use fortified soy milk.
I have personally found zink to be the hardest nutrient to get enough of, at least since I got kids and started cooking more kid-friendly food.
I never had issues before starting to supplement iron despite giving blood, so I don't think it is a problematic nutrient for me. Every day I eat more than twice the RDI, but of course non-heme and together with the regular absorption inhibitors.
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#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
I knew a smoker who lived to 90. I'm not sure how either of our anecdotes are valuable here.
Yours less so. The commenter made an extraordinary claim, without evidence, that nutritional deficiencies would soon appear as a result of vegan food. The responder at least cited personal evidence that despite being on a vegan diet for 13 years they have had no abnormal blood work. Obviously it’s not as valuable as a well constructed large scale study, but it’s at least marginally better than literally nothing.
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#224Earlier quoted context omitted.
Meat and dairy are clearly not "vast" resource hogs in any way that currently matters, because they're cheap. And while I personally share the belief that it's inherently cruel and should be changed, it's been obvious to me for most of my life that most people don't share those values and are not motivated by that. But that's also a category error for the comment you're replying to, which is "is it healthy?" when you…
" But that's also a category error for the comment you're replying to, which is "is it healthy?" when you're answering "is it ethical?" " I agree that those are two different categories, but the quote I used was about both: "how to produce them sustainabily and ethically"
Re: Animal meat and milk sales drop in Europe as vegan versions hit record highs
#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
Dismissing a point due to bias is an example of the ad hominem fallacy.
No it's not
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#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
> As much as I would like to avoid the kinds of Nestle, it's just impossible in practice for many of us. how so?
Wife, kids, full time job, hobbies.. simply no time or energy to start looking at each item and finding alternatives when finally buying groceries.
https://www.reddit.com/r/FuckNestle/comments/ihk2ul/hate_nes...
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#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, but buying a locally raised cow that is fed on local farmland is a lot better for the environment than steak from Argentina most of the time. The data around that is pretty solid. I don't think cashew cheese grows in nature, i would never consider it vegetables and I am not advocating for processed foods. Merely stating that cutting down on how much meat you eat and eating more veg is better for your health and…
Well backed by data? What does that mean.
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#228Animal milk outside of not being ethically sourced, could really be a better product if it came lactose free and fortified with Vitamin D by default.
As someone who actually enjoys the taste of milk and does not consider it a white liquid of unimportant taste to be poured over or into something other: No. Lactose free milk certainly hasn't the better taste and isn't the better product except for the lactose intolerant.
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#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
No it's not
Not OP. Then what "value" did you even bring to this conversation then, other than to say this person has bias? Because the natural interpretation of your comment is "oh, good facts, but see he has this bias because of this word, therefore the facts must be wrong or misleading or cherry picked". That interpretation sure sounds like an ad-hominem. If there is bias, state your counter points to prove that point.
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#230Earlier quoted context omitted.
In many parts of Europe buying from the traditional local style of producer is the cheaper way to buy animal products. Supermarket meats often contain a fair bit of water weight IME.
> In many parts of Europe buying from the traditional local style of producer is the cheaper way to buy animal products. Burden of proof here
At the butcher I pay only slightly more, I know exactly which farm it came from, I know where it was slaughtered and processed, and I can ask for specific cuts/amounts, so less wastage.
Its also much higher quality and not as "wet", so its much nicer to cook with (and I'm not paying for water weight).
I've saved a metric shitload on my monthly food shopping by using the butchers and greengrocers in my area instead of the supermarkets.