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Re: Telegram Web Apps for Bots

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Post by kitkat_new »

solarkraft wrote: post #22
skrowl wrote: post #13

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> it's not syncing between devices > Signal is cooler Clearly you haven't tried using Signal on multiple devices. It's terrible currently. Telegram / WhatsApp / etc work great on multiple devices.

(I'm partially utilizing Cunningham's law here) Because all the really security focused apps insist on per-device private keys, so everything has to be re-encrypted by everyone per the other users' device. This mitigates key leakage problems to some extent, but also makes the UX as awful as you describe. I don't understand why nobody (to my knowledge) has yet gone the middle route of having a private key per user . S…

Matrix has this as an option

Re: Telegram Web Apps for Bots

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Post by stavros »

dotancohen wrote: post #29
FridgeSeal wrote: post #28

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Pity that _using_ telegram is a frustrating, spam filled messaging experience. Nothing nets me as much annoying automated spam as simply having an account there. More frustratingly, disabling messages from unknown contacts doesn’t appear to be a feature.

I wonder why your account is attacked by spam so often. Conversely, I've never had any account get so little spam as my Telegram account. My email gets literally dozens of spam mails per day. Telegram, I'd say less than once per month. Exactly yesterday I thought that I got a spam message, it turns out that the sender is a SpaceX fan and a real interesting human, not the crypto-pushing bot that I had suspected at fir…

> Conversely, I've never had any account get so little spam as my Telegram account.

I don't get that much spam in Telegram either, but this must be an exaggeration. My WhatsApp and Signal accounts get completely zero spam.

Re: Telegram Web Apps for Bots

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Post by plonq »

justsomehnguy wrote: post #37
FridgeSeal wrote: post #28

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Pity that _using_ telegram is a frustrating, spam filled messaging experience. Nothing nets me as much annoying automated spam as simply having an account there. More frustratingly, disabling messages from unknown contacts doesn’t appear to be a feature.

There are privacy settings, you know? Did you set every option to 'Nobody' or 'My contacts only'?

I’m not the other person, but there’s no privacy setting for normal messages, in the iOS version at least. So it’s impossible to block messages from randoms.

Re: Telegram Web Apps for Bots

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Post by V__ »

I really wish Signal would try something similar, with a strong focus on security and data-protection. I just don't want my data in Telegram's hands.

Re: Telegram Web Apps for Bots

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Post by 55555 »

kevingadd wrote: post #6
meowtimemania wrote: post #5

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The 30% rule only applies if you are paying to unlock software features. If you’re paying to purchase real world things it doesn’t apply. E.g. 30% rule doesn’t apply to amazon

It's not restricted to software features, though. Things like ebooks and (???) event tickets also have a 30% cut (Facebook had an angry dispute over this).

This is why the Kindle app doesn’t let you buy anything on iOS. Such an awkward flow because you can read a free sample of a book and as soon as you finish and are ready to continue it just appears that there’s no way to buy it.

Re: Telegram Web Apps for Bots

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Post by the_gipsy »

aww_dang wrote: post #3

Would love to see this platform opened up. I've been recommended by users, but telegram always demands an app install for account creation. App install + mobile number as a login/username is a deal breaker for me. Horrible experience trying to explain why this isn't a sane security model to users.

Matrix is an open protocol with real encryption. You can bridge telegram to it. It's all open source though, so don't expect an experience as polished as telegram.

Re: Telegram Web Apps for Bots

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Post by aww_dang »

herbst wrote: post #38
HelixEndeavor wrote: post #23

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Fragment? You mean Telegram's attempt to cash in on the cryptocoin scam, with their own walled-garden system and marketplace where it's currently hovering around $30 to buy a number, when it's genuinely cheaper to just get a Google Voice number or some prepaid burner phone number? Fragment, the service that is currently banned in the USA for being such an obvious scam?

They sell cosmetic services for their app I wonder how that classifies as scam? It's also a market so user sell to each other, is that scam too?

Wondering if the big players' app stores qualify as a scam under these terms, or if it is just more HN crypto-hate?

Re: Telegram Web Apps for Bots

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Post by xeonax »

I have been using Telegram as my game server administrator. It gives me realtime updates about important activities from my players, As well as I can change settings directly from my mobile. Or start a new event.

Re: Telegram Web Apps for Bots

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Post by slig »

herbst wrote: post #35
FridgeSeal wrote: post #28

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Pity that _using_ telegram is a frustrating, spam filled messaging experience. Nothing nets me as much annoying automated spam as simply having an account there. More frustratingly, disabling messages from unknown contacts doesn’t appear to be a feature.

> More frustratingly, disabling messages from unknown contacts doesn’t appear to be a feature. On the android client you find this option under privacy. Pretty sure it never hasn't been there

You cannot disable message from unknown contacts, their messages goes to a "archived" folder, but they're still there.
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