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NewsNotFound: An open-source, unbiased news company

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Re: NewsNotFound: An open-source, unbiased news company

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As expected, it has trouble with time and sequence. See "SpaceX Starship rocket system explodes during test flight".[1] "On Tuesday, SpaceX conducted an uncrewed sub-orbital test of its Starship rocket system in Texas. The spacecraft, which is designed to carry up to 100 astronauts to Mars, exploded within minutes of takeoff." "100 astronauts to Mars?" The launch was originally scheduled for Tuesday, April 18, but wa…

I've read time and time again that there is no such thing as truth or fact. If the news is to be truly unbiased, it cannot have any basis in reality.

Re: NewsNotFound: An open-source, unbiased news company

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Their de-dupe filter needs some work.

Duplicate articles on today's (Apr 22, 2023) front page:

> World News:

> Russian Warplane Accidentally Drops Bomb, Injuring Two in Belgorod April 21, 2023

> Russian Fighter Jet Accidentally Bombs City Near Ukraine Border April 21, 2023

> United States

> US Supreme Court Blocks Restrictions on Abortion Pill Mifepristone April 22, 2023

> US Supreme Court Reviews Case on Mifepristone Restrictions April 21, 2023

> Alec Baldwin cleared of involuntary manslaughter charges in Halyna Hutchins shooting April 21, 2023

> Criminal Charges Dropped in Alec Baldwin On-Set Shooting Case April 21, 2023

Re: NewsNotFound: An open-source, unbiased news company

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As someone who has worked in the media industry, I can tell you that the problem with unbiased news goes much deeper than simply presenting facts objectively. The very first step mentioned in your breakdown - scraping the latest headlines from publicly available news sites - is inherently biased, because it relies on a small selection of sources to determine what is considered newsworthy. But by whom? In reality, edi…

There is no such thing as unbiased news. Anyone claiming to be unbiased, rather than wearing their biases on their sleeves, is lying to you, or themselves, or they are just ignorant. Likely some combination of all three.

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Re: NewsNotFound: An open-source, unbiased news company

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This doesn’t replace journalists, it’s just an AI driven link aggregator. That said as others have mentioned, LLVM’s are inherently biased through their training and this site only picks from moderate and left wing sites, bringing into question whether it could ever be unbiased.

Just trying to settle on a definition on left, moderate, etc would grind this thing to a halt. Most of what people call left is center by any view I would consider well-founded. Then there are places where what passes for center in the US would be far right. Not trying to classify would make choosing sources that are actually representative impossible unless the creator were operating under the illusion that unbiased…

Honestly I agree, it's a matter of perspective and even most self described left or right-wing outlets will have journalists who occasionally write articles that swing the other way.

That said you can find the publishers they use in this list https://github.com/joshwallerr/newsnotfound/blob/main/scrape... if you want to make your own decision.

Further I want to add I don't think this is a bad idea, I just think the idea of collecting "unbiased news", although desirable, is unfortunately impossible. The idea and model they've developed however may be very good.

Re: NewsNotFound: An open-source, unbiased news company

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This idea punches down. Journalists work so hard to complete the work they do. They do not need this. And as noted elsewhere, AI is not inherently unbiased. In fact, one of the big problems with AI is that it introduces systemic bias, and understanding the role of fairness is very important here. https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/22916602/ai-bias-fairness... I would also raise the point that journalism is actually m…

This doesn’t replace journalists, it’s just an AI driven link aggregator. That said as others have mentioned, LLVM’s are inherently biased through their training and this site only picks from moderate and left wing sites, bringing into question whether it could ever be unbiased.

Its positioning is designed to question the legitimacy and objectivity of traditional journalism while positioning itself as an alternative. That deserves more pushback than the average aggregator does.
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