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Post by shitlord »

monksy wrote: post #43
vegetablepotpie wrote: post #16

4th amendment text: > The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Let’s name names, the senators who introduced this are Mr. GRAHAM…

My senator Duckworth is going to respond back with a from letter stating "OMG THE CHILDREN". (Just like she did for the first Earn act concern I sent). Might as well add her name on there too.

Mine is a co-sponsor (Rubio) and he will say the same thing. People hate pedos more than they care about their own privacy or oppose their political enemies.

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Post by cscurmudgeon »

anigbrowl wrote: post #33
LocalH wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. Or the "USA PATRIOT" Act, as it's full name spells. "Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism". But by calling it "patriot", it implies that you're not a patriot if you don't support it. Never mind that modern American "patriotism" isn't anything of the sort, but is much closer to nationalism.

It's blatant propaganda, but Americans continue to lie to themselves that they live in the freest country in the world.

At least in the US we can protest, debate, and oppose these laws.

https://www.cnn.com/2015/05/30/politics/what-happens-if-the-...

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Post by andrekandre »

Alupis wrote: post #202
alistairSH wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect that's because the Democrats, in recent times, haven't pursued "party purity" to the same extent as the Republicans. It's a more fractured electorate without the few "big ticket" issues that the GOP weaponizes (guns, god, and gays). But, when you look at Feinstein's accomplishments, she has represent her constituents as well as anybody... She authored the Respect for Marriage Act (undoing the conservative D…

> I suspect that's because the Democrats, in recent times, haven't pursued "party purity" to the same extent as the Republicans. It's a more fractured electorate without the few "big ticket" issues that the GOP weaponizes (guns, god, and gays). The Republican Party of today is changing right before our eyes. Many hard-line issues are becoming soft - famously recently with Trump and his complete lack of religiousness.…

  > Republican party will continue to "liberalize"
is that why they are pushing so many anti-gay/trans bills, banning books, and banning abortion seeming to no end?

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Post by notyourwork »

GalenErso wrote: post #234
motohagiography wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, you're just part of the third of people that one third can depend on to do nothing while they try to destroy the reamining third. Discouraging others is just a bonus.

I'll admit I would rather this bill doesn't pass but don't care if it does to do anything about it.

One day you and others may look back and wonder when everything changed for the worst.

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Post by noisy_boy »

vlovich123 wrote: post #231

Re “If you have nothing to hide” arguments. Pointing out abuses is one thing. I say we go the other way. All travel by government employees/officials is available to the public (can be historical to avoid security issues). Complete financial transparency by all government officials/senior staff and their family members enforced at the bank level - you must list all your accounts, a cumulative amount of assets, list o…

Make them share their all their phone communications; that's what this bill amounts to anyway.

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Post by HaZeust »

maerF0x0 wrote: post #7

A reminder that "you have nothing to hide" argument is a fallacy because people abuse their power: Some first hits as reminders of places where their powers are abused [1]: "NSA staff used spy tools on spouses, ex-lovers: watchdog" https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-surveillance-watchdog... [2]: https://reason.com/2022/07/26/police-can-access-your-ring-ca... [3]: https://reason.com/2021/04/26/warrantless-border-s…

“Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.” - Snowden

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Post by stametseater »

p_j_w wrote: post #222
Dalewyn wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strong men make good times. Good times make weak men. Weak men make bad times. Bad times make strong men.

If this little bit of so-called wisdom were true, one would expect Russia to be going through some good times now given the state of the Soviet Union in the late 70s until its dissolution. It seems about as realistic as one should expect such a simplistic reduction of an insanely complex world to be: not at all.

The unique culture, history and geography of Russia produces a different sort of dynamic:

Strong men create bad times.

Bad times create strong men.

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Post by youarenutz »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #201
Madmallard wrote: post #186

How does this stuff keep happening? Like no one wants it in the public why is it still coming up?

I'm in the public and I want this bill. My senator is one of the sponsors and I'm happy to see it. I think a large portion of society is now following enough echo chambers that they believe that nobody opposes their position, when usually... it's a pretty big chunk of society, actually, that they just never interact with or talk to.

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