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Path uploads your entire iPhone address book to its servers

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Re: Path uploads your entire iPhone address book to its servers

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I e-mailed Path and they replied. The only thing I am worried about is how to verify my information is actually wiped out. And what about all my other friends who have me in their address books? How do I get rid of that?

Zack S. FEB 08, 2012 | 05:19PM PST Hi Jeff,

Thanks for getting in touch with us! I have erased your contacts and their information from our servers.

On behalf of the team, I’d like to apologize for any privacy concerns that you may have had. Our current release of Path for Android requests permission to access your address book. In the next iOS release, we will have this same permission request added.

Until the update is released for iOS, selecting “Add Friends” will display the names of contacts that you have stored on your phone. But now that you’ve opted out of contact uploading, we will never re-store this data on our servers.

Please let me know if there is anything else I can do to help you. I’m more than happy to address any further questions or concerns that you may have.

Best, Zack

Re: Path uploads your entire iPhone address book to its servers

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post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not a PR move, that's what you do while crossing your fingers that state attorney generals and the FTC doesn't come after you.

I've just: 1) saved their Privacy Policy and Terms of Use 2) requested a complete deletion of our family's account 3) requested deletion of any/all stored information 4) considering contacting our lawyer As I emailed to Path's support, our 3-4 year old children's schools, bus companies, physicians, pharmacies and our family lawyer were in that contact list - that's an insane, willful, and quite unexpected violation o…

considering contacting our lawyer

What do you expect to achieve with this step?

Re: Path uploads your entire iPhone address book to its servers

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1. I just changed my phone # 2. I notified all of my contacts to change their phone #s 3. I contacted both Apple and my State senator.

I am outraged by this scandal, and I still can't bring myself to believe that Path has been collecting this sensitive personal information. My 6-month old's pediatrician's # is in my phone. If this were EVER exposed or shared with a 3rd party, I can only image what kind of damage could occur. Path should suffer for this. I forgive Apple for secretly tracking my iPhone's location for a year, but I DO NOT FORGIVE PATH. Not this time. This went to far. Dave Morin should know better. I bet an engineer voiced that he felt morally wrong doing this, and Path just fired him. This is just wrong. A defining moment in our industry. We need to stand united on this issue, and just try to move forward.

Re: Path uploads your entire iPhone address book to its servers

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post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not a PR move, that's what you do while crossing your fingers that state attorney generals and the FTC doesn't come after you.

I've just: 1) saved their Privacy Policy and Terms of Use 2) requested a complete deletion of our family's account 3) requested deletion of any/all stored information 4) considering contacting our lawyer As I emailed to Path's support, our 3-4 year old children's schools, bus companies, physicians, pharmacies and our family lawyer were in that contact list - that's an insane, willful, and quite unexpected violation o…

As I emailed to Path's support, our 3-4 year old children's schools, bus companies, physicians, pharmacies and our family lawyer were in that contact list

Ok, I'm going to pick on you for a second.

Hold the downvotes everyone! Let me explain.

This seems like a bit of a knee-jerk reaction akin to "think of the children!" or the whole child porn scare-mongering that politicians engage in that we on HN are always criticizing. I recognize that Path screwed up, big-time, but I'm unclear on why them having the information you cited, along with dozens or hundreds of other contacts from your address book, for millions of users, constitutes some kind of terrible threat to your children. I mean, their schools, their bus companies? How is that even remotely useful information to anyone?

I think there's plenty to criticize here from just the high-level perspective of "they used my contacts without my permission", without use the children scare-mongering tactic. But maybe there's a specific threat in mind that I'm not thinking of?

Anyway, just thought your response was a little over the top, and more informed by emotion than reason.

Ok, now everyone can downvote :)

Re: Path uploads your entire iPhone address book to its servers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've just: 1) saved their Privacy Policy and Terms of Use 2) requested a complete deletion of our family's account 3) requested deletion of any/all stored information 4) considering contacting our lawyer As I emailed to Path's support, our 3-4 year old children's schools, bus companies, physicians, pharmacies and our family lawyer were in that contact list - that's an insane, willful, and quite unexpected violation o…

As I emailed to Path's support, our 3-4 year old children's schools, bus companies, physicians, pharmacies and our family lawyer were in that contact list Ok, I'm going to pick on you for a second. Hold the downvotes everyone! Let me explain. This seems like a bit of a knee-jerk reaction akin to "think of the children!" or the whole child porn scare-mongering that politicians engage in that we on HN are always critic…

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Re: Path uploads your entire iPhone address book to its servers

#187

Brought to you by: https://path.com/team Their collective decision making has proven to be a huge liability. Would you hire them for your next venture? A 14 year old girl could tell you that her address book is private, private, private!

Umm, hell yes I'd hire them. And so would any major software engineering company in the world.

You seriously think that this is out of the ordinary or unusual? How many huge privacy fiascos has Facebook had? And yet, they're about to IPO for $100 billion.

The only group who really cares about this is on HN. In a week, most of us will have moved on to the next big drama. In a year, no one will remember this at all.

The memory of the voting population is short, but the memory of the Internet is so infinitesimal as to almost not exist at all. And truthfully, I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

Re: Path uploads your entire iPhone address book to its servers

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post #44

Dave Morin, Path's CEO just responded in a comment: http://mclov.in/2012/02/08/path-uploads-your-entire-address-... > Arun, thanks for pointing this out. We actually think this is an important conversation and take this very seriously. We upload the address book to our servers in order to help the user find and connect to their friends and family on Path quickly and effeciently as well as to notify them when friends…

This appears to be a sound response to a sensitive issue. Certainly handled far better than some others have handled their PR (debacles) recently.

You should not have been downvoted for your opinion on this, but I have to respectfully disagree. There MUST have been somebody at some point who mentioned that they were storing the details of non-users and making a massive database of connections without authorization, and as the CEO he must have been aware of this, and as the CEO he made a bad decision to go ahead and do it anyway.

He didn't even respond that they were checking your address book against their database for matches and then making those connections and dumping the rest of the data. He actually confirmed that they are storing non-user data in the hope of one-day making a connection. But if that was correct, the new user would make that connection when they signed up. You don't need two independent sources to make the connection through the address book.

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