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algorithmic recommendation systems are dangerous, how many times do we have to be shown this — it's like if you replaced all the mirrors in the house with carnival mirrors that make you look fat, of course this is going to cause some people to feel worse about themselves than regular mirrors!
While I have concerns about the above, I am MUCH more concerned that through this and Twitter's recent changes, we're slowly losing extremely valuable "alternative news sources." and that these are mostly a result of quiet socio-politcal interests, and not for many (or any) genuine concerns for safety (i.e. Facebook and Instagram will happily continue to push the exact same stuff if Tiktok and Twitter go down)
Tiktok pushes what you interact with the most. If you comment, if you heart, if you watch it and content like it all the way through it assumes its the content that you like and will give you more like it. If you see something you don't like keep scrolling. It learns and stops showing that content.
Good stuff.
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I don't know how true it is, but allegedly[1] the algorithm of tiktok in china is tuned to promote achievements and education, while in the western world it promotes debauchery and stupidity. Doesn't take a huge leap to think it could be intentional.. [1] https://www.opindia.com/2022/07/tiktok-china-engineering-oth...
Anti-intellectualism is ingrained in the American societal psyche and was seen as a thing to be proud of many times in the past. Hofstadter‘s Anti-intellectualism in American Life is one of the best explanations of this process. As such, apps like TikTok are just following the target population’s specs.
Ironic hotbed of so much technological innovation (but then $$$ is a strong motivator).
I don't know how true it is, but allegedly[1] the algorithm of tiktok in china is tuned to promote achievements and education, while in the western world it promotes debauchery and stupidity. Doesn't take a huge leap to think it could be intentional.. [1] https://www.opindia.com/2022/07/tiktok-china-engineering-oth...
Maybe Tiktok is just trying to give the market what it wants? Idiotic stunts were going viral years before TikTok existed.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> we are raising generations of porn addicted dopamine junkies. The west is fucked. Agreed on the first point, disagree on the second. I think it’s a fixable problem. Addicts can recover and further damage can be avoided.
https://www.cnet.com/culture/internet/the-way-kids-use-memes... , this article is pretty interesting, it touches on how digital culture permeates young children and how they aren't constantly connected. But they are connected enough to have these disembodied memes on the playground the way my generation heard about Marilyn Manson's missing rib and that superman S we all drew.
Recently, a group of high school girls jumped to their deaths in Matsudo, Japan, and the video trended on Twitter, and it showed up at the top of relevant searches for 'suicide'. To be honest, I think the priority display of this kind of shocking content is a problem not only for TikTok, but for social media in general.
There's a chapter in Malcolm Gladwell's famous "The Tipping Point" that deals with waves of teenage suicides. He describes that a single suicide acts as a subliminal permission for this behavior to be mimicked. This permission is sent out as a beacon and susceptible agents replicate this behavior. I forget the details of it, but the point was that this could be extended to other behavior as well, possibly all behavio…
The question is how to keep kids off social media. I am very thankful neighbor mom, who bought her son a smart watch and not a cheap android phone. Good example for other kids. It’s clear, that departments with lots of clever people are doing to lock young kids in the phones. And only parents can protect them.
Tiktok is available on Android and Apple phones. Not sure what the significance of Android is in your post. You can even get tiktok on Apple Watches with a bit of effort.
I don't know how true it is, but allegedly[1] the algorithm of tiktok in china is tuned to promote achievements and education, while in the western world it promotes debauchery and stupidity. Doesn't take a huge leap to think it could be intentional.. [1] https://www.opindia.com/2022/07/tiktok-china-engineering-oth...
The opIndia article says "The flood of such content on TikTok, an immensely popular social media platform among the youth, is a serious problem that needs to be addressed at the earliest."
There's a lot of dumb stuff on TikTok, but trans people not being suppressed isn't really one of them. And there might be _toxic_ stuff on TikTok, but in the context of an article where youth are pushed to material about suicide, linking to an article calling for the suppression of trans perspectives as if that was part of the same problem is super shady.
As for Douyin having a different algorithm, I'd point out that within China it was still viewed as being harmful enough to kids that they put in a 40m daily time limit, and restricted it to specific hours. I'm guessing it's also not great for kids there. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-58625934