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Re: Proton announces Proton Pass, a password manager

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i really hope its passphrase generation is on par with bitwarden. I'm not going back to a nonsense password generator, i hate typing these into other devices. Give me CorrectB4tteryStapleHorse! or no deal. edit: i really like that they leverate simple login, that might be a reason to switch.

Wait, I'm AFK so I can't check, but you can configure Bitwarden to generate pass-words instead of random strings??

I need to set that up then.

Re: Proton announces Proton Pass, a password manager

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As a Proton Unlimited subscriber & general supporter of the company: I don't care who it is hosting it, I don't want my password manager connected to the internet. There is cognitive dissonance when this community that distrusts IoT, call-home LLMs, URL bars that send data to Google and 5G-connected vehicles is willing to connect their most critical private data to a single, profit-seeking source-of-failure. The pass…

How do you sync your password manager between computers, out of curiosity? Most people put that file online somewhere they can copy it to other computers. Or is the ad-hoc nature of this usage a defense? I use KeepassXC though, I'm still not terribly confident that I haven't lost data from forgetting to merge another modified database before overwriting it.

I personally use pass which out of the box uses git, meaning it's trivial to sync to as many devices as I want. And obviously merging is a solved issue there.

Re: Proton announces Proton Pass, a password manager

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you sync your password manager between computers, out of curiosity? Most people put that file online somewhere they can copy it to other computers. Or is the ad-hoc nature of this usage a defense? I use KeepassXC though, I'm still not terribly confident that I haven't lost data from forgetting to merge another modified database before overwriting it.

I use Syncthing to sync KeepassXC db. It works flawlessly.

I've thought about doing this as well, but I really like the password manager integration in Firefox. How does the Keepass Browser Extension work? Is it as seamless and do you need to have Keepass running in the background at all times?

Re: Proton announces Proton Pass, a password manager

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As a Proton Unlimited subscriber & general supporter of the company: I don't care who it is hosting it, I don't want my password manager connected to the internet. There is cognitive dissonance when this community that distrusts IoT, call-home LLMs, URL bars that send data to Google and 5G-connected vehicles is willing to connect their most critical private data to a single, profit-seeking source-of-failure. The pass…

https://old.reddit.com/r/ProtonPass/comments/12su1vq/proton_... They claim that using it as cloud service prevents brute force.

Re: Proton announces Proton Pass, a password manager

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I have been a user of Proton since shortly after crowdfunding. I kick myself regularly for not buying a lifetime subscription.

I’m a Proton fan mainly for one reason - assuming that they aren’t a CIA company with back doors, my government must get a warrant to access my data there. This is my right and is recognized in the fourth amendment but increasingly my government chooses to ignore it. I am simply reasserting my rights.

Before I used Proton I used Hushmail for the same reason but they gave up years ago on innovation, and Canada is practically a totalitarian state nowadays anyway so I don’t trust them anymore.

Re: Proton announces Proton Pass, a password manager

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post #51
post #35

i really hope its passphrase generation is on par with bitwarden. I'm not going back to a nonsense password generator, i hate typing these into other devices. Give me CorrectB4tteryStapleHorse! or no deal. edit: i really like that they leverate simple login, that might be a reason to switch.

Wait, I'm AFK so I can't check, but you can configure Bitwarden to generate pass-words instead of random strings?? I need to set that up then.

You can, can also change the parameters of the passphrase. Makes it much easier to type manually, I use passphrases for breakglass/admin accounts.

Re: Proton announces Proton Pass, a password manager

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As a Proton Unlimited subscriber & general supporter of the company: I don't care who it is hosting it, I don't want my password manager connected to the internet. There is cognitive dissonance when this community that distrusts IoT, call-home LLMs, URL bars that send data to Google and 5G-connected vehicles is willing to connect their most critical private data to a single, profit-seeking source-of-failure. The pass…

How do you sync your password manager between computers, out of curiosity? Most people put that file online somewhere they can copy it to other computers. Or is the ad-hoc nature of this usage a defense? I use KeepassXC though, I'm still not terribly confident that I haven't lost data from forgetting to merge another modified database before overwriting it.

I can't answer for OP, but for me, I just don't. I prefer an entirely offline password manager, and that's the way I use mine (I use enpass). Except for backing up to the cloud, it does not really use the network. When I need a password, on my computer or on my phone, I look it up and transcribe it (I'm reluctant even to allow it to hook into the password autocomplete in IOS; I prefer to copy/paste because I don't really want any leak in the knowledge of where my passwords are stored).

I would actually prefer an even less feature-rich password manager. I've thought of trying to fork something like KeePass for my purposes (or use a restricted subset) but I haven't been willing to devote the time and effort necessary.

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