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US could soon approve MDMA therapy

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Post by loeg »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #179
bluetomcat wrote: post #172

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Iceland and the Scandinavian countries have, let's say, "weather-related" reasons for their depressions. They are introvert societies with the highest percentage of single-person households. The reason for the US being close to them could be the high prescription culture and the social aggression inherent in everyday US life, masked behind curteous words, customer-oriented interaction and polished looks.

> Iceland and the Scandinavian countries have, let's say, "weather-related" reasons for their depressions. Seasonal Affective Disorder also occurs in the United States. Much of the US population lives in areas with significantly shorter days in the winter.

Most of the US is significantly south of much of continental Europe (not just Scandinavia), as a point of comparison. We (broadly) experience longer days in the winter than Europeans.

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Post by jseliger »

goolz wrote: post #107
openstep wrote: post #10

For anyone interested, I highly recommend these two books: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PiHKAL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TiHKAL It's a fascinating read about the chemist Alexander Shulgin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Shulgin

Hamilton's Pharmacopeia has some wonderful exchanges between Hamilton, Sasha and Ann. What beautiful souls, who brought so much light to this world.

If you read Phikal, you will see some not-great comments on Sasha's treatment of his first wife.

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Post by JAlexoid »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #151
bheadmaster wrote: post #109

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I am fairly skeptical of the claim that banning guns would significantly reduce gun violence. People who commit the most gun violence crimes (criminals) will find a way to get guns regardless of the laws. I live in a country where it's very hard to get weapons legally, yet almost every drug bust in the news also contains a significant amount of confiscated firearms.

The more barriers to entry the less likely someone is to buy a gun on impulse or "just to have." When they're not common on the street it's not needed to carry one for defence either. You say that drugs busts etc. outside the US will often have guns involved. Yes, criminals can still find ways to get them but ordinary people won't be bothered with this. The Netherlands for example has Europe's biggest port in Rotterd…

Murder rates have been going down in all developed nations, regardless of the gun ownership statistics.

Even being gun regulation advocate, I cannot accept the premise that banning guns will do much to reduce murder rates.

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Post by pb7 »

Alupis wrote: post #180
KyeRussell wrote: post #122

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Oh please. Survey 100 random non-US residents and I’ll eat my hat if the majorly don’t say that US gun policy is absurd. The typical American argument is that the US is exceptional and that the views of “these damn foreigners” don’t matter. I on the other hand seldom hear Americans actively argue that US gun policy is looked upon favourably by the worldwide community. This is exactly what you’re doing by implying tha…

Foreigner views are readily dismissed because they are based on biased, sensationalized narrative-driven media coverage of rare events. You don't get US small-town local news in the EU, for instance, so have no reference for how many non-violent stories are aired by comparison - or how many stories cover a happy ending of a homeowner defending themselves successfully. You only get the bad stuff. Imagine if we got wee…

European media is obsessed with the US and you can quickly tell by talking to anyone from there. If our media covered to the same degree the French torching their cities because they don't want to work, you'd think WW3 is starting.

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Post by bheadmaster »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #185
notch898c wrote: post #123

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How do I protect my toddler from all the criminals who keep their guns? Call the police and wait 15 minutes?

If I was having my toddler threatened by criminals on a regular basis, I'd have to question my life choices.

Living in an area with high crime rate does not necessarily reflect person's life choices.

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Post by eimrine »

specproc wrote: post #188
eimrine wrote: post #174

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What a strange idea is to recommend a dose with respect to neither a weight nor a desired effect

OK, fair point. In my head it was a fairly big tilde. I don't think it's a terrible start, but yes, of course, YMMV and one should never go doing such things without a bit of reading about.

If you are starting from very very low and if you are consuming the crystal then you dont need to read anything more. You can try 5mg in the morning and I promise any newbie will understand it fully before evening.

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Post by AlwaysRock »

Does anyone have a timeline of what the history of this has been? Because I'm fairly positive that I was going to sign up for MDMA therapy for chronic pain in Chicago ~5 years ago because a clinic nearby offered it. But when I got around to it insurance regulations had changed and was no longer going to cover part of it so it was going to be incredibly expensive.

It's possible that was ketamine therapy but I thought it was mdma.

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Post by JAlexoid »

Alupis wrote: post #180
KyeRussell wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh please. Survey 100 random non-US residents and I’ll eat my hat if the majorly don’t say that US gun policy is absurd. The typical American argument is that the US is exceptional and that the views of “these damn foreigners” don’t matter. I on the other hand seldom hear Americans actively argue that US gun policy is looked upon favourably by the worldwide community. This is exactly what you’re doing by implying tha…

Foreigner views are readily dismissed because they are based on biased, sensationalized narrative-driven media coverage of rare events. You don't get US small-town local news in the EU, for instance, so have no reference for how many non-violent stories are aired by comparison - or how many stories cover a happy ending of a homeowner defending themselves successfully. You only get the bad stuff. Imagine if we got wee…

> Americans would start to believe you Europeans really need to get that knife situation under control.

A lot of Americans unironically do believe that.

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Post by robg »

Keep in mind that approvals don’t need to be prescription based. Consider the value of quality assurance and drug labeling. Tylenol can readily kill and the importance of knowing what’s in something. Therapists don’t have the authority to prescribe but could still support a session.
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