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Re: SpaceX Starship rocket explodes minutes after launch from Texas

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> "Success was defined as the rocket leaving the launchpad." I am confused. Everything I read before the launch said that it was intended to reach orbital altitude and make it around the Earth.

The Chief Twit said "anything other than blowing up the launch pad is a success."

Sounds like he moved the goalpost.

Re: SpaceX Starship rocket explodes minutes after launch from Texas

#132

Success was defined as the rocket leaving the launchpad. Suggesting that this test “failed” is at best a mischaracterisation.

> "Success was defined as the rocket leaving the launchpad." I am confused. Everything I read before the launch said that it was intended to reach orbital altitude and make it around the Earth.

That might have been the flight plan. When drawing these up you don’t typically mark down "experiences an unexpected rapid disassembly a few minutes after launch.”

Re: SpaceX Starship rocket explodes minutes after launch from Texas

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Musk has many issues, but what is the point of bringing his grudge with Trans? The rocket is a great success and in the grand scale of things is worth the ego grandstanding. The man has done nothing illegal and has accomplished a lot amazing things. Congrats to SpaceX, Elon, the Americans and Humanity. What good is freedom of thought and speech if one cannot exercise it? I probably drank the old american koolaid and…

> but what is the point of bringing his grudge with Trans?

Let's not pretend like he just has a "grudge" with trans folks. It goes many orders of magnitude beyond that. Perhaps he was not, and maybe he even still is not a transphobe, but right now he's tweeting like a full-blown transphobic maniac on Twitter. [1] That's a severely negative personality trait. Discriminating against a group of people simply because of the way they were born goes against the fundamental values of the Western society, freedoms, and should be criticized harshly at any avenue. It's relevant here, not because of Musk's speech (which I firmly believe every person is entitled to), but because Musk is an influential figure who contributes so much thought, inspiration, motivation and soft/hard influence to the world that it must be noted he's actively acting like an unhinged transphobe. This can be harmful to people and too much influence from a transphobic personality can be harmful for the society, in turn. Just like, a lot of influence from good people is good for society, a lot of influence from bad people is bad for society. It's worth noting.

[1] We saw, in many instances not only Elon Musk but many other people exaggerating their personalities and beliefs on Twitter.

Re: SpaceX Starship rocket explodes minutes after launch from Texas

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My mind is so blown. Definitely disappointing, but let's be honest: this is a win for SpaceX, given that this was the first fully integrated flight test of a very complex, very unproven vehicle. (Yes, the ship has flown before, but this was the booster's first flight.)

Did anybody else notice the Apollo-style maneuver to avoid the launch tower?

Re: SpaceX Starship rocket explodes minutes after launch from Texas

#136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if this is true, it's going to get more and more difficult to explain away rocket explosions as succeeding the more decades we put between us and the dawn of the Space Age. If SpaceX is still blowing up rockets in 2033, it's going to become a PR problem, especially as the MSM further turns its back on Musk.

It would be absolutely reckless for SpaceX to not blow up rockets. How could they credibly claim to know the limits and abilities of their spacecrafts if they did not test those limits to the breaking point?

That's not being contested. What will be in conflict, I think, is engineering versus how that engineering may be perceived. Given enough time, investors and critics of government subsidies may also question whether "failure success" became an excuse.

Re: SpaceX Starship rocket explodes minutes after launch from Texas

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People always joke that a success like this will be blasted by the media as a failure, but it's the most predictable thing ever. Massive success today for SpaceX but the story is massive failure. So silly. I'm as anti-Musk as the next, but it's also weird to see so many people gleeful that Musk must be so embarrassed at this 'massive failure'. Like, how uninformed do you have to be to think that Elon would be humilia…

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Re: SpaceX Starship rocket explodes minutes after launch from Texas

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Looking at the aerial footage before the launch, I was wondering why there is so much infrastructure so close to the pad. Clearly much of needs to be nearby, but perhaps those tanks should be 800 - 1000 feet from the pad and not ~200. After seeing the damage to some of that infrastructure caused by the launch, I am still wondering.

They are very limited in space due to environmental regulations so it is difficult to expand.

It is also worth noting that liquid methane is not explosive by itself.

Re: SpaceX Starship rocket explodes minutes after launch from Texas

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Success was defined as the rocket leaving the launchpad. Suggesting that this test “failed” is at best a mischaracterisation.

The irony is that we're all "fail fast" until something actually fails fast.

Actually its more like your project is ahead of schedule and is meeting budget targets.
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