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Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by wraptile »

govolckurself wrote: post #252
sizzle wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean the site is ad infested and slow as hell to load, such a fall from their former grace when they were seen as an internet darling next to photobucket type sites when options for uploading and hotlinking were limited due to bandwidth constraints. I think Reddit started hosting their own content or whatever the redgif site is seems to have taken over Imgur for a while now and the images/vids load lightning fast i…

Tale as old as time. 1. "We need a better image host!" 2. Makes new image host. 3. Uh oh, hosting costs money. 4. Ads. 5. Lawsuits because illegal stuff. Uh oh, lawyers cost money. 6. "We need a better image host!"

You'd think that all the recent technological advancements (compression, cheaper hosting etc) would make a difference here.

To me it seems like it's not necessarily budgeting issue but natural greed kicking in. I'm sure imgur people are not tightening their belts over this.

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Post by red-iron-pine »

tallanvor wrote: post #190
pclmulqdq wrote: post #82

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It's pretty common to use alt accounts to upvote and comment on your own posts - I used to do this when I cared. Some people take it really far and have their alts also repost their content to get multiple shots to "go viral." Some people also make down vote networks to silence comments they don't like. Recently, I have used these accounts to get answers to questions: post the question with one account and ~3 bad but…

It's common among trolls, not among the vast majority of users.

Not just trolls, there is a giant incentive for marketers (or even just TikTok-ers) looking to make something visible.

Tons of accounts reposting content from ~2 months ago to create a long, legitimate-looking post history and high karma score. They then use those accounts to complain about Product X or love Product Y -- and they don't look like a shillbot. Ditto for political actors, propagandists, et al.

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Post by red-iron-pine »

local_crmdgeon wrote: post #298
causi wrote: post #259

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It was always rather left but at least it was clever left. Now it may as well be copied from some octogenarian's Facebook profile. "Like THIS if you think Donald Trump should be in JAIL!" Frankly, hearing grade-school versions of my own opinions parroted back at me ad nauseum is more annoying than if the posts were coming from other end of the spectrum. At least you can make a useful comment on something you disagree…

I've said for a long time that it's much easier to discredit an argument by ^^^ than it is to be persuasive. My own turn to the right came from discomfort with the IFLScience and NowThis set

> IFLScience

"Religion for people who are atheist's"

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Post by theobromananda »

achenet wrote: post #250
phendrenad2 wrote: post #87

The pendulum has clearly started to swing back to sexual repression. Society has started to see sexual freedom and expression as grotesque. Now the only question is how far it'll swing.

living in a midsize French city, this has not at all been my experience. Could be due to sampling bias (I'm basing this off of people I know, who are probably not representative of the population as a whole), but most people here seem pretty open sexually.

You can assume that any comment on internet culture is from an American point of view. As a European, I only find a percent of a percent that resonates with my offline world - although the dominance of American internet companies still enforces their culture online.

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Post by red-iron-pine »

coldpie wrote: post #296
glanzwulf wrote: post #186

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Time for someone to create an image hosting service that doesn't suck part 2?

More like part 2,000,000. It's an unsolveable problem. To Imgur's credit, it lasted longer than I thought it would.

It might still last; Tumblr is still there, albeit in a lesser form. And as other posters mentioned, the pushback against NSFW content isn't just Imgur.

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Post by Zetice »

rarspace01 wrote: post #156
ezekiel68 wrote: post #129

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We don't know who the person was. We have no interest in forensically doxxing them. The person stands in as a proxy for any person. Neither the person's life, livelihood, reputation, nor dignity are tarnished in any way by the posting of this image. No person has the "right" to not be photographed in public. There is no evidence the posting of this photo resulted in the financial gain of the poster. Where there is no…

"No person has the "right" to not be photographed in public." Maybe in your country, not mine.

Rights aren’t limited by geographic distinctions, if you’re a human you have rights (or don’t, as is the case here).

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Post by govolckurself »

wraptile wrote: post #301
govolckurself wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tale as old as time. 1. "We need a better image host!" 2. Makes new image host. 3. Uh oh, hosting costs money. 4. Ads. 5. Lawsuits because illegal stuff. Uh oh, lawyers cost money. 6. "We need a better image host!"

You'd think that all the recent technological advancements (compression, cheaper hosting etc) would make a difference here. To me it seems like it's not necessarily budgeting issue but natural greed kicking in. I'm sure imgur people are not tightening their belts over this.

You can't host something like Imgur for free. No technological advancement can get over the fact that even electricity still costs money. And at their volume, they have nontrivial expenses. I have no idea how or where they're hosted, but my hobbyist hosting budget tops out around $20 a month. Beyond that, either pay me or leave.

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Post by fknorangesite »

sizzle wrote: post #240
mjr00 wrote: post #5

Tumblr 2.0 incoming? It's a not-so-unspoken fact that a lot of social media platforms are popular because they have tons of pornography. Reddit, Twitter, OnlyFans (more openly) and (until now) Imgur all have massive communities around explicit content. Even Twitch and YouTube are hugely successful as ways for OnlyFans creators to drive users to their explicit content. Going to be very interesting to see if imgur drop…

I mean the site is ad infested and slow as hell to load, such a fall from their former grace when they were seen as an internet darling next to photobucket type sites when options for uploading and hotlinking were limited due to bandwidth constraints. I think Reddit started hosting their own content or whatever the redgif site is seems to have taken over Imgur for a while now and the images/vids load lightning fast i…

> whatever the redgif site is

People were uploading lots of porn to gfycat, so the gfycat people basically cloned themselves and split the adult content off onto another domain in order to keep it separate.

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Post by AlecSchueler »

local_crmdgeon wrote: post #300
AlecSchueler wrote: post #283

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This is the thing entirely. So much of the NSFW content is abusive. The HN crowd is mostly safe from such attacks so this is a real blindspot.

That's why I only use OnlyFans these days. The industry that produces free porn for pornhub etc is incredibly abusive. Disintermediation here removes a lot of scumbags

Props to you for looking into more ethical means of consumption. It's a real tragedy that the taboo around sex prevents more meaningful discussions in public live about this stuff.

Personally I got so sick of it all that I have up pornography completely about 4 years ago. I'm not saying everyone else should follow suit but I count it as the single best thing I ever did for myself, my mental health and my real life relationships.

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Post by jabroni_salad »

unaindz wrote: post #282
taneq wrote: post #274

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Reddit has been increasingly awful like this. Limiting scroll on mobile before forcing you to log in. Constant nags to install the app. Forced login or redirect to the app on mobile or on 'new' reddit for any nsfw content. For now old.reddit.com works to get rid of all this guff but when that goes, so do I.

I recently discovered libreddit and nitter and couldn't be happier. Good UI and loads super fast without restrictions. I recommend to self host though as the public servers can get overwhelmed.

It is hardly a panacea considering it uses reddit's API, which is about to become a paid feature.
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