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Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by saagarjha »

gscott wrote: post #94
dimmke wrote: post #11

Can we please stop using “NSFW” as a euphemism for porn? I feel like I’m going crazy today between this and Reddit. The standard for something to qualify as NSFW is much lower than straight up pornography. It was originally anything you wouldn’t want your boss to see you looking at if he walked up behind you at your cubicle. The use of the term is incredibly vague. If you’re banning porn just say you’re banning porn…

I use NSFWWIBM (NOT SAFE FOR WHEN WIFE IS BEHIND ME). Because I work by myself NSFW doesn't apply.

Lots of people have spouses that are fine with them consuming porn.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by Mistletoe »

phendrenad2 wrote: post #87

The pendulum has clearly started to swing back to sexual repression. Society has started to see sexual freedom and expression as grotesque. Now the only question is how far it'll swing.

But the people I know are more sexually free than ever. This seems more about repression and Puritanism in government and investors that doesn’t match the populace.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by xmprt »

vasco wrote: post #121
ajacksified wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"reddit corporate"? Like Steve, who was the original founder and is the current CEO, or Alexis, another original founder, who is the executive chairman? There is absolutely zero way they're unaware of the impact and I guarantee you they have thought this move through thoroughly.

You mention it like they haven't done a ton of user hostile releases, like the constant UX dark patterns to push you to a mobile app, etc. This argument is so strange, should we refute anything against Meta with "but the original founder is there, there's no corporate"?

I think the argument isn't that Reddit isn't corporate but rather that the original founders have thought it through a lot and have still decided to make this decision.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by mook »

armchairhacker wrote: post #76
theanti9 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW, Reddit's new limits are about 3rd party use of their data/APIs. As a regular user, it doesn't really change anything (unless you consume Reddit NSFW content exclusively through a 3rd party app, I guess), so a pretty different case than Imgur's change here, which fundamentally shifts their user-base.

It's a problem on mobile, because old-reddit isn't mobile-engineered and there isn't uBlock for iOS. The go-to Reddit app for iOS is Apollo, and they're going to be affected. https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/12ram0f/had_a_fe...

They've also relatively recently killed off i.reddit.com (the .compact view that looks like really old iOS). That was good for mobile when old-reddit was too wide.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by stametseater »

Imgur sucks, viewing images on their website requires whitelisting an obnoxious amount of javascript that simply shouldn't be necessary to view an image. They weren't always so bad, but what's past is past. If this move kills their business I won't be sad to see them go.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by Mindwipe »

ajacksified wrote: post #89
deminature wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

3rd party reddit apps rival reddit's own app in terms of popularity, and will be significantly hamstrung by these changes if NSFW content can only be accessed in the official app. Lots of non-porn content is marked NSFW. It may end up having a much larger impact than reddit corporate anticipates.

"reddit corporate"? Like Steve, who was the original founder and is the current CEO, or Alexis, another original founder, who is the executive chairman? There is absolutely zero way they're unaware of the impact and I guarantee you they have thought this move through thoroughly.

Given in the announcement thread they got wrong about it affecting third party apps at all and then on calls with third party devs do not seem quite sure if it will effect NSFW content or not, that does not seem to be the case.

Indeed, it seems to be a chaotic mess, as most of Reddit's "throw shit at a walk and hope something sticks" development methodology is.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by peanuty1 »

dageshi wrote: post #102
jabroni_salad wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that is only for images in comments. image submissions to subreddits are still ok. A lot of communities have imgur-only rules due to other image hosts having lower retention or invasive UX.

Best I can tell, you can't create image posts on NSFW posts via the New Reddit Desktop Site. You can via the mobile app.

This is also my experience.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by navane »

mjr00 wrote: post #5

Tumblr 2.0 incoming? It's a not-so-unspoken fact that a lot of social media platforms are popular because they have tons of pornography. Reddit, Twitter, OnlyFans (more openly) and (until now) Imgur all have massive communities around explicit content. Even Twitch and YouTube are hugely successful as ways for OnlyFans creators to drive users to their explicit content. Going to be very interesting to see if imgur drop…

I assume the nsfw users are less interesting to the advertisers, but more demanding to their file servers. From that perspective it could be a money saving measure, at the cost of growth.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by stametseater »

mjr00 wrote: post #73
munchler wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> maybe manufacture a consensus You're running a one-person troll farm? Please reconsider your choices in life.

Not that I'm defending the practice (and certainly don't have enough skin in the social media game to do it myself), but it is extremely common to have alts upvote/repost each other on social networks, or downvote brigade someone when you're losing an internet argument.

For some values of "extremely common", because I'm pretty sure most people don't have the patience and energy to do bullshit like that. But a small fraction of people do it a lot.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by asdfman123 »

atleastoptimal wrote: post #72
mjr00 wrote: post #5

Tumblr 2.0 incoming? It's a not-so-unspoken fact that a lot of social media platforms are popular because they have tons of pornography. Reddit, Twitter, OnlyFans (more openly) and (until now) Imgur all have massive communities around explicit content. Even Twitch and YouTube are hugely successful as ways for OnlyFans creators to drive users to their explicit content. Going to be very interesting to see if imgur drop…

The sexual instinct has been the hidden drive for almost every major adoption of any new service/social media platform. Whether its porn or hookups, young people be horny, and young people are always the necessary early adopters of any new platform.

I feel like this is the secret reason why Mark Zuckerberg thought VR would be such a hit, which makes me think more about Mark Zuckerberg the person than I’d like.
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