Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content • Hacker News Board

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by rrrrrrrrrrrryan » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 5:33 AM UTC

015a wrote: post #86

pabs3 wrote: post #44

ArchiveTeam are in early discussions about how to save all that stuff to archive.org. https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Imgur

This is a fantastic time to be alive and prepared to start the third generation of internet companies. You've got Google in a panic against OpenAI, Meta is imploding, Twitter is imploding, Reddit can't help but drive users away, and now least of all Imgur also deciding to follow them off the cliff; I genuinely feel blessed to watch these companies tear themselves apart. Like in all things; we, the data hoarders, the…

Also, lots of top tier talent is being laid off, and many others are well-capitalized and eager to flee to fully remote companies, or to start their own companies.

Looking back a decade from now, we'll notice that many of the unicorns will have been founded in 2023.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by dageshi » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 5:35 AM UTC

jabroni_salad wrote: post #24

NavinF wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not on NSFW subreddits. Unless this changed recently, you have to upload your image elsewhere and then submit the link to NSFW subs

that is only for images in comments. image submissions to subreddits are still ok. A lot of communities have imgur-only rules due to other image hosts having lower retention or invasive UX.

Best I can tell, you can't create image posts on NSFW posts via the New Reddit Desktop Site. You can via the mobile app.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by tido99 » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 5:37 AM UTC

Sakos wrote: post #70

mjr00 wrote: post #5

Tumblr 2.0 incoming? It's a not-so-unspoken fact that a lot of social media platforms are popular because they have tons of pornography. Reddit, Twitter, OnlyFans (more openly) and (until now) Imgur all have massive communities around explicit content. Even Twitch and YouTube are hugely successful as ways for OnlyFans creators to drive users to their explicit content. Going to be very interesting to see if imgur drop…

This obsession with banning sexual content is bizarre to me. "It's because payment processors yada yada", I don't care. It's fucking weird and unnecessary and tiring. We all want porn. Why does a single culture get to push its insane puritanical values on all of us?

Which "single culture" is that? I disagree with censorship and morality policing as much as you seem to but opposition to porn is the norm worldwide across nearly every culture.

A 2019 Gallup poll found that 61% of American respondents believed pornography was "morally unacceptable." That's nearly twice the share that thought smoking marijuana was immoral, and higher than abortion. Somewhere around half of American women support banning it altogether, as well as a not insignificant share of men: https://ifstudies.org/ifs-admin/resources/lehmanfigure2-w640...

(IFS is a biased source here, but the surveys they cite are not)

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by adad95 » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 5:39 AM UTC

phendrenad2 wrote: post #87

The pendulum has clearly started to swing back to sexual repression. Society has started to see sexual freedom and expression as grotesque. Now the only question is how far it'll swing.

I don't think is the case. I think we are even more sexually open was society.

I think the issues here is the US money is over and now the big investors are from countries that porn is banned like China and Arabias.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by midoridensha » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 5:43 AM UTC

mjr00 wrote: post #13

sudosysgen wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can just post directly to Reddit now.

You have to wonder how long that's going to last, though, as Reddit is in the same situation of quietly tolerating pornographic content while not explicitly promoting it. The worst possible outcome for Reddit is that this move shines light on how many porn communities exist on reddit, which causes media scrutiny, which causes advertisers to bail or threaten to bail, which causes Reddit to ban NSFW subreddits, which s…

>which spells the end of Reddit.

This would probably be a good thing for the world, except for the loss of the NSFW subreddits. All the "normal" subreddits are cesspools.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by Sakos » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 5:48 AM UTC

tido99 wrote: post #103

Sakos wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This obsession with banning sexual content is bizarre to me. "It's because payment processors yada yada", I don't care. It's fucking weird and unnecessary and tiring. We all want porn. Why does a single culture get to push its insane puritanical values on all of us?

Which "single culture" is that? I disagree with censorship and morality policing as much as you seem to but opposition to porn is the norm worldwide across nearly every culture. A 2019 Gallup poll found that 61% of American respondents believed pornography was "morally unacceptable." That's nearly twice the share that thought smoking marijuana was immoral, and higher than abortion. Somewhere around half of American w…

And probably 99% of those 61% watch porn. Polls aren't worth anything in regards to some topics.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by throwaway675309 » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 5:50 AM UTC

jacooper wrote: post #41

Barrin92 wrote: post #21

I'm still waiting for the day when people will stop being absurdly neurotic about sexuality and just let people share their stuff as long as it's age flagged appropriately. It's so absurd that the most normal thing on earth is put into the same moderation category as harassment or hate speech.

That's your view, but actually most of the world doesn't share it. India, china and the middle east aren't found of sexual content.

Their moralistic and/or overly religious governments aren't fond of it. The vast majority of young people under 30 likely don't give a shit.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by oblio » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 5:55 AM UTC

mjr00 wrote: post #73

munchler wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> maybe manufacture a consensus You're running a one-person troll farm? Please reconsider your choices in life.

Not that I'm defending the practice (and certainly don't have enough skin in the social media game to do it myself), but it is extremely common to have alts upvote/repost each other on social networks, or downvote brigade someone when you're losing an internet argument.

It's still a solid sign of a sad life.

Or a small business, but I wonder how much money there is in that.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by SCdF » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 5:59 AM UTC

ndiddy wrote: post #17

Imgur will also be deleting images that aren't associated with a user account. https://help.imgur.com/hc/en-us/articles/14415587638029/

It's the bigger deal IMO, or at least _for me_.

One of imgur's selling points was you opened imgur.com and hit cmd+v to paste the screenshot, or dragged the image over, and bam! You had a sharable version. No muss, no fuss.

The number of times I have used this to share something on a forum or troubleshoot something is uncountable.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by oblio » Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 6:02 AM UTC

slg wrote: post #80

fenomas wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This strikes me as being at least as big a deal as the NSFW bit. For 10+ years, imgur has been many people's go-to way of hosting an image they want to post to a forum or whatever. Many of those people will have paid little attention to whether or not they were logged into imgur when they posted each image. In short, it sounds like a lot of image links are about to break.

Isn't this the cardinal sin of an image host? They are partially killing links in a way that wasn't previously communicated. And to make it worse, it directly targets what was previously the primary strength of the site, easy and accountless uploads with only a few clicks. Why would anyone use them as an image host again? I wonder if they are hemorrhaging money. This decision gives the impression that they simply don…

The cardinal sin of an image host is existing as inherently not a profitable venture. They keep sponging off the initial investment or VC rounds or whatever, but in the end they devolve into ad infested garbage, like those domain squatting pages.