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Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by deminature »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #64
deminature wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

3rd party reddit apps rival reddit's own app in terms of popularity, and will be significantly hamstrung by these changes if NSFW content can only be accessed in the official app. Lots of non-porn content is marked NSFW. It may end up having a much larger impact than reddit corporate anticipates.

I think that's intentional. They clearly want to kill those apps because they don't generate ad revenue. Those apps will now also have to move to a subscription-only model because the APIs will be paid, as the Apollo dev confirmed.

I'm trying to take the most charitable interpretation possible instead of assuming malice on the part of reddit, but it's difficult to interpret it any other way than they have decided to kill 3rd party clients and not be upfront about their intentions.

It wouldn't be so difficult to swallow if the official mobile app was high quality, but it isn't. There are major UX issues with the official app that haven't been fixed for years. The 3rd party app ecosystem is vibrant because of this. Instead of competing and being the best on merit, they have decided to play their platform-owner veto card which is very disappointing, compounded with their dishonesty about the true intent of these changes.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by pclmulqdq »

cfiggers wrote: post #65
pclmulqdq wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about you, but I personally have 5 Twitter accounts and 20+ Reddit accounts (sometimes you want to have different perspectives on an issue, have different front pages, or maybe manufacture a consensus). Only the main Twitter account has been asked for a phone number - I think they actually know about alt accounts and don't mind you having them as long as you don't do anything crazy with them. Don't worry…

"Manufacture a consensus"?

It's pretty common to use alt accounts to upvote and comment on your own posts - I used to do this when I cared. Some people take it really far and have their alts also repost their content to get multiple shots to "go viral." Some people also make down vote networks to silence comments they don't like.

Recently, I have used these accounts to get answers to questions: post the question with one account and ~3 bad but assertive answers with other accounts, and that's usually enough to get at least one response from someone who knows the right answer and wants to prove they are smart. All of this can now be done very easily by ChatGPT, too - it used to take effort.

This is the "dark" part of social media marketing that nobody talks about but a lot of people engage in.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by SomaticPirate »

munchler wrote: post #67
pclmulqdq wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know about you, but I personally have 5 Twitter accounts and 20+ Reddit accounts (sometimes you want to have different perspectives on an issue, have different front pages, or maybe manufacture a consensus). Only the main Twitter account has been asked for a phone number - I think they actually know about alt accounts and don't mind you having them as long as you don't do anything crazy with them. Don't worry…

> maybe manufacture a consensus You're running a one-person troll farm? Please reconsider your choices in life.

Or manufacture controversy for engagement? For example, I posted the 4 comments above all from accounts I own (/s)

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by user- »

tacitusarc wrote: post #74
neilv wrote: post #58

I don't understand why Imgur did the following on https://imgurinc.com/rules , which I'd assume would be vetted by a lawyer... Caption on example photo of mocking an obese person sitting on a too-small metal folding chair, consequently with a little butt crack visible (maybe at an MtG event): > This buttcrack isn't intended to stimulate erotic feelings, so it's ok. Two sections later, this photo itself seems to hit a…

It’s a reference: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/his-butt-crack-photos-at-magi...

The reference being someones ass crack having a picture taken without their consent and posted for millions to see, which is why the OP of that time got banned temporarily i think for that. Its pretty hypocritcal of imgur to use that image , and somewhat ironic to use it in this TOS update

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by karlshea »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #64
deminature wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

3rd party reddit apps rival reddit's own app in terms of popularity, and will be significantly hamstrung by these changes if NSFW content can only be accessed in the official app. Lots of non-porn content is marked NSFW. It may end up having a much larger impact than reddit corporate anticipates.

I think that's intentional. They clearly want to kill those apps because they don't generate ad revenue. Those apps will now also have to move to a subscription-only model because the APIs will be paid, as the Apollo dev confirmed.

One way to do that is fix their own mobile app so it's not a pile of trash. I wouldn't mind seeing the ads if the app was as good as Apollo.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by 015a »

pabs3 wrote: post #44

ArchiveTeam are in early discussions about how to save all that stuff to archive.org. https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Imgur

This is a fantastic time to be alive and prepared to start the third generation of internet companies. You've got Google in a panic against OpenAI, Meta is imploding, Twitter is imploding, Reddit can't help but drive users away, and now least of all Imgur also deciding to follow them off the cliff; I genuinely feel blessed to watch these companies tear themselves apart.

Like in all things; we, the data hoarders, the open source community, the hackers, the archivists, were here before them; and we'll be here after them. Like watching pigs roll in the mud.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by ajacksified »

deminature wrote: post #55
theanti9 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW, Reddit's new limits are about 3rd party use of their data/APIs. As a regular user, it doesn't really change anything (unless you consume Reddit NSFW content exclusively through a 3rd party app, I guess), so a pretty different case than Imgur's change here, which fundamentally shifts their user-base.

3rd party reddit apps rival reddit's own app in terms of popularity, and will be significantly hamstrung by these changes if NSFW content can only be accessed in the official app. Lots of non-porn content is marked NSFW. It may end up having a much larger impact than reddit corporate anticipates.

"reddit corporate"? Like Steve, who was the original founder and is the current CEO, or Alexis, another original founder, who is the executive chairman?

There is absolutely zero way they're unaware of the impact and I guarantee you they have thought this move through thoroughly.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by rchaud »

mjr00 wrote: post #13
sudosysgen wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can just post directly to Reddit now.

You have to wonder how long that's going to last, though, as Reddit is in the same situation of quietly tolerating pornographic content while not explicitly promoting it. The worst possible outcome for Reddit is that this move shines light on how many porn communities exist on reddit, which causes media scrutiny, which causes advertisers to bail or threaten to bail, which causes Reddit to ban NSFW subreddits, which s…

Reddit tolerates porn because the customer base for their ads product are overwhelmingly no-name companies that aren't in a position to dictate content standards.
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