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Canonical will no longer fund Kubuntu

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Re: Canonical will no longer fund Kubuntu

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Post by a_a_r_o_n »

mike-cardwell wrote: post #7
manuletroll wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some ideas seem kind of interesting, like the HUD thingy, but I very much doubt it will be enough to bring disappointed users back to using Ubuntu. Xubuntu is quite good if you're looking for something close to the gnome 2 experience.

The desktop is just there to launch and switch between applications. I want it to stay simple and to keep out of my way. I've not tried Xubuntu yet, but it sounds/looks like it will be better at satisfying these requirements for me.

"The desktop is just there to launch and switch between applications."

If that's how you look at the desktop, then you should definitely look at Lubuntu. It's just windows and a panel. When you look at an Xfce desktop, it looks like Xfce. When you look at Lubuntu, it's just windows and a panel.

Re: Canonical will no longer fund Kubuntu

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Post by [deleted] »

pgroves wrote: post #40
andrewcooke wrote: post #16

"[...] a regularly released community-friendly distro with a strong KDE focus. There is no other major distro out there that matches that description [...]" Then WTF is OpenSuse? http://www.opensuse.org/en/ This makes me really mad. OpenSuse is a major distro and has supported KDE for years. It's not so popular in the USA, but is pretty big in Europe (I have used it for years and it rocks; so does KDE). I don't see h…

Kubuntu is not Ubuntu. It is a complete distro with KDE as the default desktop. In the future, KDE support will still be in Ubuntu, as much as it is in Opensuse. Opensuse allows you to pick which desktop to use [1]. OpenSuse is not a "KDE distro." [1] http://en.opensuse.org/Product_highlights

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Re: Canonical will no longer fund Kubuntu

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Post by [deleted] »

reuser wrote: post #42
andrewcooke wrote: post #16

"[...] a regularly released community-friendly distro with a strong KDE focus. There is no other major distro out there that matches that description [...]" Then WTF is OpenSuse? http://www.opensuse.org/en/ This makes me really mad. OpenSuse is a major distro and has supported KDE for years. It's not so popular in the USA, but is pretty big in Europe (I have used it for years and it rocks; so does KDE). I don't see h…

That was written by Jonathan Riddell, who worked on Kubuntu. I am fairly certain he is not trash-talking KDE and I am also fairly certain that Ubuntu is not using him as a mouthpiece to trash SUSE. So it isn't necessary to get very hot toward Ubuntu on account of it. Maybe Riddell misspoke. I seriously doubt anyone is trying to be mean to SUSE, let alone all of Ubuntu doing so through people who were working on Kubun…

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Re: Canonical will no longer fund Kubuntu

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Post by mike-cardwell »

a_a_r_o_n wrote: post #51
mike-cardwell wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The desktop is just there to launch and switch between applications. I want it to stay simple and to keep out of my way. I've not tried Xubuntu yet, but it sounds/looks like it will be better at satisfying these requirements for me.

"The desktop is just there to launch and switch between applications." If that's how you look at the desktop, then you should definitely look at Lubuntu. It's just windows and a panel. When you look at an Xfce desktop, it looks like Xfce. When you look at Lubuntu, it's just windows and a panel.

I was unaware of Lubuntu. I will keep it in mind. Thanks.

Re: Canonical will no longer fund Kubuntu

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Post by Scaevolus »

davidw wrote: post #49
Karunamon wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canonical is not a stranger to idiotic business decisions.(See also Unity and their subsequent losing of ground to Mint) That, combined with their utter inability to take community feedback into account, really makes me wonder whenever they do something like this. It's like traditional logic doesn't apply.

> Canonical is not a stranger to idiotic business decisions. Do they even make money? They provide a bunch of free stuff, so I'm not sure how the recoup it.

They sell support contracts.

Re: Canonical will no longer fund Kubuntu

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Post by davidw »

Scaevolus wrote: post #55
davidw wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Canonical is not a stranger to idiotic business decisions. Do they even make money? They provide a bunch of free stuff, so I'm not sure how the recoup it.

They sell support contracts.

My impression, with no basis in actual facts, is that they spend more than they take in. How many zillions of users do they have, and how many of those actually need support from Canonical, especially when they can get varying degrees of support from anyone with Linux knowledge.

Re: Canonical will no longer fund Kubuntu

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Post by levesque »

nailer wrote: post #12
tzury wrote: post #3

Following the Unix philosophy Write programs that do one thing and do it well -- perhaps we can assume that Canonical is willing to maintain one OS, and do it well.

I've been wanting to hear this for a long time. Not that I like one more than the other, I just think that Canonicals effort should be towards developing, fixing and improving one UI, not four.

I'm not sure Canonical supports XFCE in any way, and now they also no longer support KDE (financially, that is). There were hiring one guy to work on Kubuntu, that's not much if you ask me. So we're down to two (Gnome-shell and Unity), and the support of gnome-shell is almost mandatory. Unity itself is based on gnome3, so they need to help maintain and improve it.

There is no harm in letting community driven efforts take place. Having a variety of desktop environments available to pick from has its advantages. For example, Xubuntu is really useful for people who need to cut down memory/CPU requirements.

Re: Canonical will no longer fund Kubuntu

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Post by jriddell »

andrewcooke wrote: post #16

"[...] a regularly released community-friendly distro with a strong KDE focus. There is no other major distro out there that matches that description [...]" Then WTF is OpenSuse? http://www.opensuse.org/en/ This makes me really mad. OpenSuse is a major distro and has supported KDE for years. It's not so popular in the USA, but is pretty big in Europe (I have used it for years and it rocks; so does KDE). I don't see h…

It is a literal statement and you are not reading it literally. OpenSuse is frequently but not regularly released. It also fills in gaps in KDE's offering with other software such as Yast and Firefox. Otherwise it is a good distro for KDE fans.

Re: Canonical will no longer fund Kubuntu

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Post by jriddell »

oinksoft wrote: post #19
andrewcooke wrote: post #16

"[...] a regularly released community-friendly distro with a strong KDE focus. There is no other major distro out there that matches that description [...]" Then WTF is OpenSuse? http://www.opensuse.org/en/ This makes me really mad. OpenSuse is a major distro and has supported KDE for years. It's not so popular in the USA, but is pretty big in Europe (I have used it for years and it rocks; so does KDE). I don't see h…

Mandriva and its descendant PCLinuxOS also fall into this category. I believe Mandriva is relatively popular in Europe also, being used in government and such.

Mandriva is less frequently released and like suse fills in gaps with their own technology such as system control centre. They have also been very bad at creating a community which leads to forks like PCLinuxOS and Mangia

Re: Canonical will no longer fund Kubuntu

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Post by slug »

puzzler314 wrote: post #10

I've recently switched Linux Mint as a result of Canonical's new focus on eye candy rather than functionality (I couldn't take the new interface in Ubuntu). Have others gone the same way or is there another distribution I should look at?

Tried Unity and didn't like it so...

Running 11.10, replaced unity with xmonad on laptop. Running kubuntu (kde 4.8 ppa) or xfce on desktop computer depending on the mood.

I still think that KDE is the best (and improving) desktop environment for Linux but for older machines xubuntu/xfce is probably a good substitute.

The reason I use [xk]ubuntu is that I like the debian package system but with the somewhat more up to date packages.

I still run some gentoo machines, some for many years, but the pain of compiling stops to be funny after a while so I run it only on servers now.

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