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Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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> As Microsoft puts it: “We are continuing the exploration of badging on the Start menu with several new treatments for users logging in with local user accounts to highlight the benefits of signing in with a Microsoft account (MSA).” What is Microsoft really thinking here? You have to go out of your way (and probably do a web search) in order to figure out how to install Win 11 without using a Microsoft Account. So…

"You have to go out of your way (and probably do a web search) in order to figure out how to install Win 11 without using a Microsoft Account." You are not kidding. I bought my parents two computers and set them up from scratch, taking pains to create local user accounts (because they don't have Microsoft accounts). On one of them, I have no idea how, the sole user ID still managed to be a POS "Microsoft account" cre…

I have a Microsoft account (an ancient one even, anyone remember Hotmail?) I use everyday, but I refuse to use it with Windows 10/11.

Why? Because I don't want sync.

I treat each of my computers as separate, individual, unique machines. Synchronizing the data on them is fucking insane to me because I can't rely on a given machine to be the computer I expect it to be.

And yes, I have separate Google accounts for my phone, tablet, etc., because I do not fucking want sync.

Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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post #96

MS Windows is the daytime television of operating systems: If you're still using it in 2023 you have only yourself to blame. It's not like there aren't better options at your disposal...

I would love to be running Mac or Linux, but the accessibility story for both of those is pretty dire. I have to have voice/eye tracker input, Dragon only works on Windows, and the other options are hobbyist quality at best.

Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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post #54

> As Microsoft puts it: “We are continuing the exploration of badging on the Start menu with several new treatments for users logging in with local user accounts to highlight the benefits of signing in with a Microsoft account (MSA).” What is Microsoft really thinking here? You have to go out of your way (and probably do a web search) in order to figure out how to install Win 11 without using a Microsoft Account. So…

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Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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It’s funny for what is essentially a ‘file manager’ Microsoft makes it hell to manage your files. My friends and family and constantly confused by the 10 different interfaces there are for file management. Desktops are a mess of of half trash files. The cloud integration the file explorer is a confusing mess. The UI for saving a file from Office is the absolute worst. I’ve had to help someone just save a file and it…

My number 1 complaint after switching from linux mint back to windows after years in linux-land after building a gaming rig - The auto sort by date and group by most recent in their file explorer that you have to either use a third party app to turn back into sort by name and group by none, or - do that selection for literally every folder on its own. That's a fucking train wreck. Who decided that sorting by date ins…

Maybe I misunderstand, it's definitely possible to sort by name and select to apply it to all folders? That feature has been there for several decades...

Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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I went ahead and installed Linux the moment I realized I had to go through a ton of hoops in order to install Windows 11 offline. I'm only ever going to use Windows for work machines that someone else is paying me to use, and even then, I might just start asking for a Mac instead. I'm over this awful OS nonsense they're doing to Windows. Whoever is in charge of the OS clearly does not care. If I were manning the ship…

You think a Mac is better, but it really isn't. In fact, MacOS and iOS are further ahead in terms of dark patterns like this. FOSS OSes don't have these patterns, but they have other issues of course.

OS X is better though. Been using it exclusively for quite a while now and my experience has been very smooth. I’m extremely thankful I don’t have to use windows anymore.

Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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I tried to use Linux on my desktop for a year but ended up switching back to Windows for various reasons: - Work apps that weren't compatible - Awful screen tearing issues - Bluetooth dropping out (mouse) and glitching (audio) all the time - Games didn't work (and you can't screenshare with audio on Linux in Discord) I'm sure I could have fixed these but after getting to the third page of Google looking how to solve…

It's truly incredible how we as humans can exist in the same world but have entirely different experiences. I never had the issues you listed in Linux, and my experience has been mostly stable (not saying no bugs, all software has bugs in 2023). But, oh my god, the few times I used Windows, I was continuously tortured by the unbelievable instability. On my Thinkpad X1 Carbon, Windows still displays the wrong time wit…

>On my Thinkpad X1 Carbon, Windows still displays the wrong time with Google searches leading to no solution.

Were you dual booting Windows and Linux?

Linux assumes and sets the system clock to UTC, while Windows assumes and sets the system clock to local timezone. This quite often leads to one of the two incorrectly determining the time because of an incorrect assumption.

As for my personal experience, Linux is cursed. The thing breaks down if I so much as look at it weird; I don't trust anything mission critical to it anymore.

Windows, besides being practical and versatile and customizable, has been a paragon of reliability for me. Even Windows ME performed admirably for me way back in the day; no, I'm not joking.

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> I wouldn't be surprised if some shitty Bluetooth headphones send a "play" command on connection, Bose's highest end headphones. > While there should ideally be a toggle in the OS to be able to ignore play commands completely from bluetooth devices (to deal with such defective ones), but I don't see it as outright malicious unlike putting spam in the start menul Windows does the "proper" thing here and starts playin…

> at least is an attempt to follow the standard There's a standard that blesses automatically running a media application when headphones are connected? Unless it can be disabled, that behavior is beyond obnoxious.

Auto play is disgusting, especially with videos on websites. I cannot imagine why anyone would think auto playing media is the “correct thing” to do.

Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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Apple has a similar problem. On setup it wants me to set up siri, payment, etc. My options are to setup now or do it later. There needs to be a third option that I will never setup these things and never ask me again.

I don't think Apple recurringly hounds you to sign in when you hit "Do it later" though. I read "Do it later" here as a subtle reminder that "the option is not gone. You can do it later on your own in your system settings if you want", as opposed to "ok we'll ask you again later unprompted :)"

It constantly asks you to sign up to icloud, and makes it difficult to refuse. Fuck apple too.

Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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These kinds of changes just make the OS look cheap (like a bazaar of sorts). They're visually ugly, but easily ignored (I rarely open the start menu). What I'm more concerned / annoyed by is the trend of Windows fighting with you. For example, try to disable the real-time antivirus protection. The UI makes it look like it's off, but then it turns back on by itself. Then you go to group policy to make it explicit that…

that's an interesting strategy to use alternate routes to the same information. Might be an opportunity to use more of the WIN+R shortcut to launch applications from that lil dialog. Makes me daydream of a day when Microsoft gets into a cat and mouse and starts slipping ads in many other dialogs that currently lack them.
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