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Re: Node.js 20 is now available

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The "Don't talk about deno" release. Quite an interesting feature list. I'm really interested if wasi + a permission prescription + package authorization might allow us sharable cli tools like git hooks and filters that we can trust.

Why are you referring to it as that?

Re: Node.js 20 is now available

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Love this. I wonder if we'll eventually have a new merge à la io.js/node.js

Deno and Node are converging more and more on every release, such a deja vu. The main difference being that deno offers much more as a business than just the "deno" product itself, so an eventual merge wouldn't be so trivial.

Denode or Nodeno? Who wants to place bets?

Re: Node.js 20 is now available

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The "Don't talk about deno" release. Quite an interesting feature list. I'm really interested if wasi + a permission prescription + package authorization might allow us sharable cli tools like git hooks and filters that we can trust.

Why are you referring to it as that?

because one of deno's key selling points is restrictions on permissions, on what can a running script do to its environment.

Re: Node.js 20 is now available

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What is the standard web application backend framework for Node.js these days, is it Koa? As I understand it express is quite dated because of the callback structure.

I have been confused recently with the moving best practices. What is the server architecture Next.js is most often plugged into?

Re: Node.js 20 is now available

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The "Don't talk about deno" release. Quite an interesting feature list. I'm really interested if wasi + a permission prescription + package authorization might allow us sharable cli tools like git hooks and filters that we can trust.

Why are you referring to it as that?

The big new feature is a sandboxing with explicit CLI flag opt in to permissions, exactly like deno pioneered. Except there's zero mention of deno as a clear inspiration of the feature.

Re: Node.js 20 is now available

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you referring to it as that?

because one of deno's key selling points is restrictions on permissions, on what can a running script do to its environment.

deno's built-in test runner is also a big selling point for me, and Node.js 20 is declaring theirs (node:test) to be stable.

Re: Node.js 20 is now available

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post #6

What is the standard web application backend framework for Node.js these days, is it Koa? As I understand it express is quite dated because of the callback structure. I have been confused recently with the moving best practices. What is the server architecture Next.js is most often plugged into?

Express is still fine to use. To me it's either express or fastify. A lot of opinions in the JS world.
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