What Level Programmer Are You?
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What Level Programmer Are You?
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Re: What Level Programmer Are You?
#2I personally don't like the idea of "levels", especially with programming. IMO it adds to the "I'm better then you cause I do xyz code" mindset which seems to get adopted more and more each day. It actually almost turns me off and makes me not want to participate in the community.
Perhaps that mindset is more common among those in the valley or other tech "hot" areas. But around here, Washington DC, if you know People Soft and SharePoint you can easily command a salary ~130k salary. Knowing how to write your own Ruby implementation or js library gets you pretty much nowhere.
/end My first HN comment :)
Re: What Level Programmer Are You?
#3I think it's difficult to group up knowledge like this. I read through the levels and found that I had bits and pieces from different levels, meaning the whole system sort of failed me.
Levels work in a structured environment. Programming and the learning of programming is far from structured.
Re: What Level Programmer Are You?
#4I personally don't like the idea of "levels", especially with programming. IMO it adds to the "I'm better then you cause I do xyz code" mindset which seems to get adopted more and more each day. It actually almost turns me off and makes me not want to participate in the community. Perhaps that mindset is more common among those in the valley or other tech "hot" areas. But around here, Washington DC, if you know Peopl…
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Re: What Level Programmer Are You?
#5I personally don't like the idea of "levels", especially with programming. IMO it adds to the "I'm better then you cause I do xyz code" mindset which seems to get adopted more and more each day. It actually almost turns me off and makes me not want to participate in the community. Perhaps that mindset is more common among those in the valley or other tech "hot" areas. But around here, Washington DC, if you know Peopl…
So you're saying that Washington DC and Silicon Valley are different bubbles.
@uberPhil: I'm in Hungary, so I'm not a bubble boy =)
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#6I personally don't like the idea of "levels", especially with programming. IMO it adds to the "I'm better then you cause I do xyz code" mindset which seems to get adopted more and more each day. It actually almost turns me off and makes me not want to participate in the community. Perhaps that mindset is more common among those in the valley or other tech "hot" areas. But around here, Washington DC, if you know Peopl…
Actually I've found that in Silicon Valley, no one cares about quantifying programming levels, and care more about what you did and what you know.
When I applied for jobs on the East Coast, they all seemed to want things like GPA (even though I'd been out of school for 15+ years), and especially results from programming tests like Brainbench.
Re: What Level Programmer Are You?
#7I personally don't like the idea of "levels", especially with programming. IMO it adds to the "I'm better then you cause I do xyz code" mindset which seems to get adopted more and more each day. It actually almost turns me off and makes me not want to participate in the community. Perhaps that mindset is more common among those in the valley or other tech "hot" areas. But around here, Washington DC, if you know Peopl…
If you increase your skill/knowledge that doesn't hinder your ability to use PeopleSoft/SharePoint. It certainly expands your options. While you can get a good salary using those technologies, eventually they will be obsolete. When that happens, we'll start to see news stories posted on some future-HN about how older IT workers are being passed up for younger, fresher IT workers and how it is a biased industry. When in fact, its just a group of people who decided that sitting in their comfort zone doing their day-to-day was good enough and when it was time to move on, they couldn't find any other jobs that fit their particular niche they'd had for the last decade(s).
Re: What Level Programmer Are You?
#8I think Donald Knuth, who must be placed at the Mystery Level, never went through the functional phases.
http://homepages.cs.ncl.ac.uk/m.j.bell1/blog/?p=49
DK on the subject of functional programming: “Out of the ~250 programs I wrote last year, 2-3 would have benefited from being written in a functional style.”
DK on the subject of functional programming: “With 1 or even 2 hands tied behind your back it’s hard to do anything dangerous.”
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#9So I'm a 4.5, that's nice to know.
Re: What Level Programmer Are You?
#10I think there should be a level "I believe I've reached a level where I can speak wisely about programming ability". Followed by the "Oh, oops. Now I see I STILL know nothing" level. ;)