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Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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Move over to linux. KDE has the eye-candy, XFCE has the simplicity and OpenBOX is distraction free. Games work well and so do dev tools.

Are fonts still ugly as sin? That was the biggest drawback last time I tried linux as my main desktop. That and having to muck around in config files for every little thing.

the hinting patents expired a long time ago

Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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Do people not realize how easy these are to turn off? I've been running Windows 11 for over a year and haven't seen a single ad.

Pretty annoying how everyone chooses outrage instead.

How about supporting microsoft with ad dollars being OPT-IN not OPT-OUT.

Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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You can do all of those in Linux. For example, here's how to set the background to a solid color. Open a terminal and type the following four commands: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-options 'none' gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background primary-color '#004000' gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background secondary-color '#306030' gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background color-shading-type 'ver…

Hilarious how the first Linux user's response to a Windows user's unease is immediately "open the terminal" As long as that's how it goes, it will never be the Year of the Linux Desktop.

Typing (or pasting) a command into a terminal will always be more reproduceable than anything GUI.

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Companies should really accept a "No" from their users. No I don't want to use a microsoft account just to use my computer. (Without jumping through hoops) Don't ask me again the moment I say "No". You can see the same with all those dialogs that only have "Yes, do $THING" and "Remind me later".

It's what the phrase "the customer is always right" originally meant. It means you can do all the market research, development, testing, polling, and seeding to sell a product. But the ultimate decider of whether the product is "good" is whether or not the people buy it. If your sales plan flops don't say "it's not the product's fault, I just need to do a better job marketing it." No, the product is wrong, the custom…

>>That could mean scrapping the project because it's unpopular, but could also mean narrowing the focus to the smaller population that really does want what you're selling.

... or, keep improving the product to the point where most people actually find it useful, which is obviously an option for Microsoft, with cash reserves to fund centuries of development. Find out what the downsides are, and fix them, or offer actually compelling benefits.

Heck, I'm very hard-set against it, but I just heard about Apple starting to offer savings accts with 4.5% interest. If MS started paying that much, with trustworthy security and no upper limit, I might sign up (i.e., if you pay me enough, I might also accept your other parts of the offer).

It must be damn valuable for MS to have us have accounts, and if so, they could actually afford to provide better returns than banks, because the return to MS would be [banking profit] + [network profit].

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I've never used linux. After a hundred frustrations with my new laptop that runs Win11, I'm now looking to install ubuntu. Windows pushed me there.

Arch Linux. Great community and excellent documentation wiki that'll hold your hand every step of the way.

hold your hand... if you have a hand to begin with. Most beginner users won't be able to follow most things in the Arch wiki.

Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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In my day-to-day usage, ads in the core user interface in iOS are worse than in Windows. Windows ads can be disabled pretty easily. iOS App Store ads cannot be disabled at all and are often for utter trash. The Microsoft Store is entirely optional, and app installs/updates can be entirely handled via winget/chocolatey (or installs in some other form). The iOS App Store cannot be avoided for installing apps or for man…

...ads in the core user interface in iOS... Where are you seeing ads in the main UI? I occasionally see a small ad near the top of "Settings", usually for an Apple service. I don't recall ads on the home page or lock screen, or in the main Apple apps I use (Camera, Photos, Files, Health, Fitness, Watch).

The only time you get those notifications is generally when you install a new os version and they want to tell you about a new feature. That feature might be 'hey we launched apple news that you can pay for'. The only other time is when you are close to your apple cloud limit it will tell you that you can subscribe to more space.

Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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> As Microsoft puts it: “We are continuing the exploration of badging on the Start menu with several new treatments for users logging in with local user accounts to highlight the benefits of signing in with a Microsoft account (MSA).” What is Microsoft really thinking here? You have to go out of your way (and probably do a web search) in order to figure out how to install Win 11 without using a Microsoft Account. So…

Can you imagine being in the Windows product design meeting and someone says:

“No means NO! The user did not activate their account and we should respect that not harass them!”

Would never happen.

Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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This is getting very meta. I profoundly resent this behaviour from the BBC app and from the people who built it. I would resent it from any party. It’s no problem to clarify that. But to the “bad guy”. IMHO behaviour is different from identity (i.e. a focus on what people do and the effect it has, not who they are). If the premise of your organisation is existentially predicated on scummy behaviour then that does imp…

I agree with all of that. That was my main point in general. Separate out individual behaviors from what a person "is".

>But “bad guy” is also common shorthand for “guy who exhibits bad behaviour”. For some that distinction might even be splitting hairs.

This is where the disagreement really comes from. It's a very common posting style on Reddit/Twitter/social & political HN threads.

I just don't like it.

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