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Re: Astral

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Post by baq »

overthrow wrote: post #16
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's just a foot in the door. Like sentry made a good logging library, then pivoted to an observability service. And today I use sentry because I have a great history with their product. It's smart and a positive way to make money. I dig it. PS: ruff is not replacing black (although it will probably in the end), but compete with flake8 and pylint.

Sentry had a natural path into cloud services because error monitoring has a server-side component to it. Serious question, what is the path for a linter? Where else are people paying for linting as a service?

SAST/DAST products cost truckloads of money, so that’s a possible direction. The linter is a tech demo in this case.

Re: Astral

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Post by swyx »

echelon wrote: post #68
swyx wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if it's any consolation, Accel is in my mind one of the "good ones". they have a record of backing "good" devtool companies that manage open source and commercial concerns well - Vercel, Sentry, etc. (i'm sure theres more, those are just the two that i'm closest to)

What are the good VC companies? Not just for dev tools, but in general. Where do you find this information?

just being "in the scene" for a few years :)

tbh i care more about individual investors than the fund brand, but its a fallback whenever meeting someone new

edit: https://overcast.fm/+t_0aYbn-o/12:00 listen to steve krouse talk about how accel encouraged him for val.town even tho he didnt initially believe in it himself. thats not normal investor behavior. look out for people like that, by definition they are rare

Re: Astral

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Post by neuronexmachina »

danpalmer wrote: post #6

Having written a bunch of Flake8 plugins, including custom plugins for internal use at a company, and using 5-10 popular plugins on every Python project I work on... rewriting the entire linting ecosystem in one monolithic Rust tool doesn't feel like the best solution. There's no good story for building an ecosystem around this yet, and I think that's a big hurdle to overcome. Ruff is fast, sure, but the benchmarking…

> Ruff is fast, sure, but the benchmarking seems a little disingenuous, as I believe their number includes caching, but doesn't necessarily include caching for other tools.

It looks like the ruff benchmark is run with the `--no-cache` arg: https://github.com/charliermarsh/ruff/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING...

Re: Astral

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Post by rochak »

traceroute66 wrote: post #47

I think HN should ban people who are too lazy to put a proper subject line on their post. I mean, "Astral" .... what's that ? The "astral.sh" domain doesn't tell me anything either. I'm sure those in the know automatically know what it is, but for the rest of us, the title is completely and utterly meaningless.

+1. Comes across as a bad attempt at gaining publicity.

Re: Astral

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Post by stavros »

prisonguard wrote: post #65

nowadays, it's cool to say this new toy is faster than the rest because it is written in Rust without providing further details? When I visit the Bun project landing page[0], I get concise reasons as to why bun is faster than its peers. [0] https://bun.sh/

> nowadays, it's cool to say this new toy is faster than the rest because it is written in Rust without providing further details?

What more details do you want? You run it, and it runs in milliseconds rather than seconds. I don't care if it's because it's written in Rust or because they sacrificed a goat to Baal, I care that it's fast.

Re: Astral

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Post by BiteCode_dev »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #37
overthrow wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sentry had a natural path into cloud services because error monitoring has a server-side component to it. Serious question, what is the path for a linter? Where else are people paying for linting as a service?

A lot of companies would pay actual money for some semblance of supply-chain security. Hosted, verified, certified Python dependencies. This is how Red Hat made all their money in Linux. Something like "use our vetted and secure pypi instead of the free-for-all full of typo squaters and package takeovers that the public pypi.org offers." Starting with some nice developer tooling and going from there doesn't seem craz…

That's Anaconda's business model.

Re: Astral

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Post by neuronexmachina »

theusus wrote: post #67

Does it support type inference and stuff?

https://beta.ruff.rs/docs/faq/#how-does-ruff-compare-to-mypy...

> Ruff is a linter, not a type checker. It can detect some of the same problems that a type checker can, but a type checker will catch certain errors that Ruff would miss. The opposite is also true: Ruff will catch certain errors that a type checker would typically ignore. ...

Re: Astral

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Post by mhh__ »

Although I'm sure it is faster, comparing "Linting" speeds as a Blackbox strikes me as bullshit artistry (for any language other than python perhaps)

Re: Astral

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Post by dangoor »

swyx wrote: post #30
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #14

It's true that being that much faster is interesting, but that's not the only reason. ruff is just really good. It has sane defaults, it is easy to use and configure. It can replace not one but multiple tools. From day one it had few bugs or integration problems. Charlie Marsh is just a damn good developer, on top of driving a good product vision. That's rare. Lots of respect to that.

> Charlie Marsh is just a damn good developer curious how you assessed this. did you inspect the code or are you just commenting from the user POV?

FWIW, some of my time at Khan Academy overlapped with some of Charlie's and I agree with this assessment :)

Re: Astral

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Post by cauthon »

akprasad wrote: post #5

I love Ruff and I'm glad that Charlie and the rest of the team are able to work on such tools full-time. I'm also happy to see that the author of Maturin (Rust+Python interop) is involved, as Maturin is a fantastic project with great ease-of-use. For those who aren't familiar, Ruff is a very fast Python linter that supersedes a variety of tools like isort, flake8, and perhaps eventually Black [1]. My understanding is…

just starting to dabble in Rust, and I've seen PyO3 mentioned a number of times for writing rust bindings. What's the difference between Maturin and PyO3?
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