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Canonical will no longer fund Kubuntu

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Re: Canonical will no longer fund Kubuntu

#31

I don't understand what is the problem. I installed Ubuntu multiple times just to uninstall Gnome and install KDE as a first step after install. Never bothered to actually try KUbuntu. Is this method of installing KDE still supported, or they are dropping support for KDE completely.

They're just making Kubuntu more like Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Edubuntu, etc. All those other derivatives have been doing OK without official support.

Re: Canonical will no longer fund Kubuntu

#32
It's always sad to see a project failing. There are other alternatives, both to a KDE linux distro (i.e: openSUSE) and gnome/ubuntu (mint being my favorite).

It's a business decision I understand, they want to shift focus completely to ubuntu, especially since they are losing a huge user-base over their last gnome3 releases.

Re: Canonical will no longer fund Kubuntu

#33
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really, what's the problem with installing kde on ubuntu/ubuntu server?

kubuntu are the ones who maintain the packages. If they go away, you're either HOPING someone volunteers to package KDE in an independent repo (a pretty daunting task), or you're building it from source.

All those packages come from Debian anyway. As long as Debian keeps KDE in its repos, I don't see any reason for KDE packages to disappear from Ubuntu repos. Worst case, KDE on Ubuntu will become less stable due to less testing, but that could be partially mitigated by using slightly older packages.

Re: Canonical will no longer fund Kubuntu

#34
post #32

It's always sad to see a project failing. There are other alternatives, both to a KDE linux distro (i.e: openSUSE) and gnome/ubuntu (mint being my favorite). It's a business decision I understand, they want to shift focus completely to ubuntu, especially since they are losing a huge user-base over their last gnome3 releases.

It doesn't mean the project is failing. Kubuntu had only a single developer from Canonical, and numerous other developers. This just means that Canonical doesn't feel like funding a KDE desktop anymore with that one developer. It doesn't mean the project is ending or anything.

Re: Canonical will no longer fund Kubuntu

#35

I've recently switched Linux Mint as a result of Canonical's new focus on eye candy rather than functionality (I couldn't take the new interface in Ubuntu). Have others gone the same way or is there another distribution I should look at?

I've ended up looking at Arch Linux (I installed using ArchBang which is probably a little easier/simpler than using the straight Arch installer). In actual daily use I find it about as easy as Ubuntu, but I like the more minimalist philosophy of the distribution. I already feel like I understand more of what's actually on my system and how it's really working.

Re: Canonical will no longer fund Kubuntu

#36
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a philosophy, not a requirement. Mint thinks you should upgrade Ubuntu that way as well. I just keep separate partitions and do a full install on the ones I need. No sweat. On the other hand, I did a "ubuntu" style upgrade to 10.04 LTS, and that worked fine, too (I run that on a netbook for their netbook interface). It took longer than a full install on Mint (perhaps being a slower machine had something to do wi…

Ok, but if they eventually strike out 'on their own', it's not something they're going to test, potentially leaving you in the lurch.

I imagine we'll at least be warned.

Re: Canonical will no longer fund Kubuntu

#37

I don't understand what is the problem. I installed Ubuntu multiple times just to uninstall Gnome and install KDE as a first step after install. Never bothered to actually try KUbuntu. Is this method of installing KDE still supported, or they are dropping support for KDE completely.

They will probably not drop the KDE packages (that'd be idiotic, tons of people use, say Amarok or Kopete or whatnot) — but it won't be the streamlined experience that Unity is or Gnome was, Ubuntu icons everywhere and whatnot.

It'll just be closer, or even identical to upstream KDE (or rather, Debian's version of upstream KDE) with few modifications on Canonical's side.

Re: Canonical will no longer fund Kubuntu

#38

I don't understand what is the problem. I installed Ubuntu multiple times just to uninstall Gnome and install KDE as a first step after install. Never bothered to actually try KUbuntu. Is this method of installing KDE still supported, or they are dropping support for KDE completely.

They will probably not drop the KDE packages (that'd be idiotic, tons of people use, say Amarok or Kopete or whatnot) — but it won't be the streamlined experience that Unity is or Gnome was, Ubuntu icons everywhere and whatnot. It'll just be closer, or even identical to upstream KDE (or rather, Debian's version of upstream KDE) with few modifications on Canonical's side.

Canonical is not a stranger to idiotic business decisions.(See also Unity and their subsequent losing of ground to Mint)

That, combined with their utter inability to take community feedback into account, really makes me wonder whenever they do something like this. It's like traditional logic doesn't apply.

Re: Canonical will no longer fund Kubuntu

#39
post #32

It's always sad to see a project failing. There are other alternatives, both to a KDE linux distro (i.e: openSUSE) and gnome/ubuntu (mint being my favorite). It's a business decision I understand, they want to shift focus completely to ubuntu, especially since they are losing a huge user-base over their last gnome3 releases.

It doesn't mean the project is failing. Kubuntu had only a single developer from Canonical, and numerous other developers. This just means that Canonical doesn't feel like funding a KDE desktop anymore with that one developer. It doesn't mean the project is ending or anything.

You're right, but it means the project will (probably) become less stable. One less full time individual probably means less testing and might require you to use older packages or build them yourself.

Re: Canonical will no longer fund Kubuntu

#40

"[...] a regularly released community-friendly distro with a strong KDE focus. There is no other major distro out there that matches that description [...]" Then WTF is OpenSuse? http://www.opensuse.org/en/ This makes me really mad. OpenSuse is a major distro and has supported KDE for years. It's not so popular in the USA, but is pretty big in Europe (I have used it for years and it rocks; so does KDE). I don't see h…

Kubuntu is not Ubuntu. It is a complete distro with KDE as the default desktop. In the future, KDE support will still be in Ubuntu, as much as it is in Opensuse. Opensuse allows you to pick which desktop to use [1]. OpenSuse is not a "KDE distro."

[1]http://en.opensuse.org/Product_highlights

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