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The new Harry Potter game is a perfect example. They went around screaming the game and JK Rowling were causing 'real world harm to trans people' which of course was BS. But the people trying to boycott the game couldn't leave it at that. They bullied and doxxed streamers just for enjoying a game without gender politics. Because of perceived slights they resorted to becoming actual bullies. We have come full circle.
I mean JK herself literally is, the game definitely isn't. If you've stayed out of this dumpster fire enough to actually not know you're probably better off. JK is a 70's-era radical feminist who's always been a little transphobic (that was the era, everyone was) but in this decade got sucked into the feminist-lesbian-to-TERF pipeline and dug her heels in when people started calling her out for it. Ever increasing le…
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
The new Harry Potter game is a perfect example. They went around screaming the game and JK Rowling were causing 'real world harm to trans people' which of course was BS. But the people trying to boycott the game couldn't leave it at that. They bullied and doxxed streamers just for enjoying a game without gender politics. Because of perceived slights they resorted to becoming actual bullies. We have come full circle.
I mean JK herself literally is, the game definitely isn't. If you've stayed out of this dumpster fire enough to actually not know you're probably better off. JK is a 70's-era radical feminist who's always been a little transphobic (that was the era, everyone was) but in this decade got sucked into the feminist-lesbian-to-TERF pipeline and dug her heels in when people started calling her out for it. Ever increasing le…
What has she done to become the most prominent transphobe in the English speaking language?
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#33I like the term “Social Justice Fundamentalism”. I’m a fan of social Justice. I’m also a fan of feminism and liberalism. But some of what we are seeing today isn’t that, and I think using the term fundamentalism to describe it, which, I suspect deliberately, draws a parallel between the efforts to force everyone to adopt these moral views with the attempts by religious fundamentalists to force everyone to adopt their…
Preface: I say this as a leftist who believes in reparations and cooperative ownership of capital. When I hear fundamentalism I think less about the proseltyzing aspect and more about the divergence from the core ideology. Fundamentalist is probably a misnomer, maybe "radical" or "sectarian". For example, someone sufficiently "woke" would understand that the slave and sharecropping economy of the rural south impacted…
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#34Lifting for those who don't read the comments in the post: > Scott Says: Comment #12 April 17th, 2023 at 11:26 pm So, why shouldn’t I cheer the destruction of universities, if they’re full of woke ideologues who hate me? One might just as well ask: why shouldn’t I cheer the destruction of the earth, if it’s full of assholes, and morons, and antisemites who’d probably kill me if they got a chance, and wild animals tha…
I would be curious what kind of person feels like they're on the receiving end of hate from "woke" people. Such a thing is practically the anthesis of what it even means to be part of that group. I'm in no way saying this means they're good people or that their legislative direction is good public policy but the only time hippie liberals push back at all is when someone tries to hurt one of their own. Liberals for th…
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> Such a thing is practically the anthesis of what it even means to be part of that group. "Woke" is a synonym of "enlightened." Don't trust anybody who claims to be enlightened, or rails against enlightenment.
Oh I completely agree which is why I put it in quotes. I've never found anyone on any side of the political spectrum actually self-identify with that label except ironically. Right now today it just seems to be pejorative-de-jour for people who are vaguely liberal.
And now I find my self using the term occasionally to describe a set of views without really engaging with them. Such as when someone showed me some pictures from their cruise (which was neat, they’re an engineering nerd and carefully detailed some elements of the ship) but had to give me a cruises are evil disclaimer before uh, saying well I went on one anyway, family, and so on. “the typical woke reasons.”
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
The new Harry Potter game is a perfect example. They went around screaming the game and JK Rowling were causing 'real world harm to trans people' which of course was BS. But the people trying to boycott the game couldn't leave it at that. They bullied and doxxed streamers just for enjoying a game without gender politics. Because of perceived slights they resorted to becoming actual bullies. We have come full circle.
I mean JK herself literally is, the game definitely isn't. If you've stayed out of this dumpster fire enough to actually not know you're probably better off. JK is a 70's-era radical feminist who's always been a little transphobic (that was the era, everyone was) but in this decade got sucked into the feminist-lesbian-to-TERF pipeline and dug her heels in when people started calling her out for it. Ever increasing le…
This is the same woman who made Dumbledore gay to appease Twitter. Retconned characters to different races to appease Twitter.
What she took issue with was women being labeled as 'birthing person'.
I can see how we got here, and claiming either she or the game causes people real world harm isn't disingenuous, it's outright lying.
They also called her a literal nazi ti the point the BBC had to apologize after she had enough and sent lawyers after them.
Twitter isn't real.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean JK herself literally is, the game definitely isn't. If you've stayed out of this dumpster fire enough to actually not know you're probably better off. JK is a 70's-era radical feminist who's always been a little transphobic (that was the era, everyone was) but in this decade got sucked into the feminist-lesbian-to-TERF pipeline and dug her heels in when people started calling her out for it. Ever increasing le…
Tweets do not kill people.
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Preface: I say this as a leftist who believes in reparations and cooperative ownership of capital. When I hear fundamentalism I think less about the proseltyzing aspect and more about the divergence from the core ideology. Fundamentalist is probably a misnomer, maybe "radical" or "sectarian". For example, someone sufficiently "woke" would understand that the slave and sharecropping economy of the rural south impacted…
Would it fair to say that racism has really largely been about classism? I’ve always thought that if capitalists wanted to make a campaign that would misdirect people’s sense of injustice, that blm and subsequent woke ideology would make the perfect foil.
Please do some reading on the subject. Cursory reading on the history of labor unions, immigration in America, or literally any book on the US south that isn't Lost Cause mythology will tell you resoundingly yes.
I am not even talking about Marxist authors or Howard Zinn. You can easily find primary sources, the people who historically weaponized racism, telling you exactly how and to what end they are weaponizing their racism.
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/exclusive-lee-atwa...
Secondly, capitalism is great at co-opting all sorts of messaging. Since you are on HN I assume you are familiar with the concept of a Paperclip Maximizer. The "machine" in this sense does not love you or hate you. You are a customer and they will adopt the aesthetics of your ideology to sell to you, inherent contradictions be damned.
Every oil company that spent the last 50 years denying climate change now pours their money into showcasing their green energy products. Companies who benefit from convict labor of African Americans adopt BLM banners on their websites. Companies who donate to the political campaigns of every republican in both houses of legislature change their logos to pride flags in June.
I dont want to assume but your phrasing makes me think (unless I am misreading it) that you think blm and "wokeness" are elite belief systems manufactured by "the machine", and that more reactionary "working class" ideology (a la Tucker Carlson) is grassroots. I really implore you to consider the Paperclip Maximizer idea and realize that the ideologies you are presented with on TV and print are the ones that have been passed through a corporate filter and sanitized to pose no threat to the machine. What you are seeing is a facsimile of what was once probably a more nuanced belief system.
When was the last time you heard Georgism or Anarcho-syndicalism or de-growth discussed by any talking heads? The answer is never because these concepts are inherently antithetical to capitalism and cannot be co-opted.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean JK herself literally is, the game definitely isn't. If you've stayed out of this dumpster fire enough to actually not know you're probably better off. JK is a 70's-era radical feminist who's always been a little transphobic (that was the era, everyone was) but in this decade got sucked into the feminist-lesbian-to-TERF pipeline and dug her heels in when people started calling her out for it. Ever increasing le…
Tweets do not kill people.
So look, I don't know, I obviously fall on one side of this issue but disagreement on it is more American than apple pie at this point. The idea that certain kinds of speech manifest in real life harm is the basis for hate speech laws around the world.
I'm just gonna quote Germany's legal code because they distill what hate speech is better than I could. "Assaults the human dignity of others by insulting, maliciously maligning an aforementioned group, segments of the population or individuals because of their belonging to one of the aforementioned groups or segments of the population, or defaming segments of the population." In my view you can only say "la la sticks and stones" up until the point where all the dehumanizing speech turns the political tide and the cultural forces that keep people from wantonly harming particular groups fall apart and we get articles like
* 2022 - https://reports.hrc.org/an-epidemic-of-violence-2022
* 2021 - https://reports.hrc.org/an-epidemic-of-violence-fatal-violen...
* 2020 - https://www.hrc.org/resources/violence-against-the-trans-and...
* 2019 - https://www.hrc.org/resources/violence-against-the-transgend...
* 2018 - https://hrc-prod-requests.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/files/a...
It's really depressing they can fill one of these articles out every year.
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Tweets do not kill people.
This presumes the only thing she's done is make public statements but that's not actually all that important to my point so whatever. So look, I don't know, I obviously fall on one side of this issue but disagreement on it is more American than apple pie at this point. The idea that certain kinds of speech manifest in real life harm is the basis for hate speech laws around the world. I'm just gonna quote Germany's le…
Also, 44 GNC or trans people were murdered in 2020 and I'm supposed to be concerned? How do we know they were killed because of their identity?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/09/09/pimmelgate-g...