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Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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MS Windows is the daytime television of operating systems: If you're still using it in 2023 you have only yourself to blame. It's not like there aren't better options at your disposal...

I just want an OS where; out of the box, I can play any game made in the last 20 years, change my mouse scroll speed, or set my background to a solid color.

Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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post #96

MS Windows is the daytime television of operating systems: If you're still using it in 2023 you have only yourself to blame. It's not like there aren't better options at your disposal...

Maybe for individual/home/personal use but Microsoft rules the enterprise. It is easier to find IT admins who can manage a fleet of Windows boxes than MacOS/Linux. There is also a whole ecosystem around the use of MS Office tools.

The sunken cost fallacy applies IMHO, but too many corporate IT managers just assume Windows systems and Windows AD is the the only way to manage a large set of corporate users.

Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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On the other hand, Windows is on a lot of computers these days. They may be making absurd amounts of money off of this arrangement.

No, they aren't. The windows division has consistently shrank to the point it isn't even a top line revenue source for the company anymore and is rolled up into the experience and devices group with office, Xbox, etc. Windows is less than 12% of MS quarterly revenue and continuing to shrink: https://www.kamilfranek.com/microsoft-revenue-breakdown/ The company could totally lose all windows revenue tomorrow and barely…

Windows is the foundation of their Enterprise Services, Server Products & Cloud Services, and Office Products & Services, which together (including Windows) comprise 73% of their revenue. If Windows disappeared off the face of the Earth, all of that other revenue would go with it.

Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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> As Microsoft puts it: “We are continuing the exploration of badging on the Start menu with several new treatments for users logging in with local user accounts to highlight the benefits of signing in with a Microsoft account (MSA).” What is Microsoft really thinking here? You have to go out of your way (and probably do a web search) in order to figure out how to install Win 11 without using a Microsoft Account. So…

You could set machines up for family that don't know better and they will see the popup and create the account themselves... same as with badgering for upgrades, had family that eventually upgraded by mistake then panick if/when things didnt work

It made my day when my mother told me she was disposing of her desktop computer because she had transitioned all of her computing needs to her iPad. One less headache to deal with.

Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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Move over to linux. KDE has the eye-candy, XFCE has the simplicity and OpenBOX is distraction free. Games work well and so do dev tools.

> Games work well come on now

I play on my desktop and laptop and all my steam games run well, battle.net too. EA is the only that sucks. Cyberpunk, and other demanding titles. Really, not a single issue. I wanted to try linux as a desktop a few times but now it’s finally rather stable.

Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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It's obvious what are they thinking: "This gives us conversions, this gives us money, what are you gonna do, pay 3000$ for a Mac?"

$999 macbook air is perfectly usable?

With a 256GB SSD? Please.

Some of us use computers for creative work and don't want to pay absurd markups for soldered on SSDs and RAM.

Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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One solution is to use Open-Shell instead of Microsoft's start menu: https://open-shell.github.io/Open-Shell-Menu/ Stardock usually makes a replacement start menu too.

I actually bought Start 11 because of how annoying the default Windows 11 start menu was. This marks the first time I've ever bought software. Good work Microsoft.

I obtained copies of Windows through some University thing with Windows Vista and Windows 7 and then those keys have somehow just worked up until Windows 10 and then they gave me Windows 11 upgrade for free. In case you were wondering how I have not ever paid for Windows.

Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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post #96

MS Windows is the daytime television of operating systems: If you're still using it in 2023 you have only yourself to blame. It's not like there aren't better options at your disposal...

If you want first-class Office interop, or require industry-specific tools, you're on Windows. Next closest is Mac, and that's not a substitute for a PC for a vast number of people (not least because they're so expensive.)

Edit: When I started writing the response, parent had no replies. I didn't mean to dogpile.

Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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post #88

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Companies should really accept a "No" from their users. No I don't want to use a microsoft account just to use my computer. (Without jumping through hoops) Don't ask me again the moment I say "No". You can see the same with all those dialogs that only have "Yes, do $THING" and "Remind me later".

website you've never seen before: "Sign up for our newsletter?" "Yes! I want $10 off my first purchase of $200 or more!" "No, I hate saving money."

My pet peeve is ones that make you say "Please". I don't know what they are thinking.

Re: Microsoft plugging more ads into Windows 11 Start Menu

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No, they aren't. The windows division has consistently shrank to the point it isn't even a top line revenue source for the company anymore and is rolled up into the experience and devices group with office, Xbox, etc. Windows is less than 12% of MS quarterly revenue and continuing to shrink: https://www.kamilfranek.com/microsoft-revenue-breakdown/ The company could totally lose all windows revenue tomorrow and barely…

putting aside that 12% is still a fair bit, I wonder how much value it brings them in more intangible ways, that would only become obvious if they "lost" windows.

Developer mindshare. There are a huge amount of developers who want Windows (or really Visual Studio proper), and there is a meticulously tarred highway from Windows to Azure.

The irony is that this bullshit will drive developers away, because they are some of the least likely to put up with it.

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