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The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by DennisP »

threeseed wrote: post #68
bottlepalm wrote: post #58

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I see so a vaporware product and a product with immense resources going into it, but not yet released are equal in your eyes. You remind me of the people who laughed about reusable rockets, starlink, private crew, and every tesla model. They laugh right up to the point it is released, and then they move the goal posts to the next product.

And how about Solar City, Boring Company, Twitter. Musk doesn't exactly have a perfect track record.

Having a perfect track record is a pretty high bar. Lots of entrepreneurs have failed with some of their businesses. We usually consider them successful if one works out really well, much less two.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by adfgadfhionio »

slashdev wrote: post #166
adfgadfhionio wrote: post #164

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I do not understand people like you. Everyone does the wrong thing sometimes, but I do not see how you can calmly and knowingly choose to do evil and not even be ashamed of it. How can you be so casual about hurting other people for your own selfish ends? It is completely alien to me.

Let he with no sin throw the first stone.

You forgot the end of that story:

"Go forth and sin no more."

All I ask is that you try to do the right thing. That's it. I can understand, accept, and forgive failure as long as you try.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by DemocracyFTW2 »

> Tesla GigaBier [is] a “limited edition pilsner-style beer brewed in Berlin with our exclusive strain of Cyberhops and notes of citrus, bergamot, and sweet fruit.” [...] GigaBier is sold in packs of three 330-ml bottles for 89 euros (close to $100—or about $30 a beer)

Fuck off Elon fuck off together with all those dimwits who find it stylish or funny to shell out 30€ for a can of beer. Please take all your buddies with you too, and you can take those politicians with you who bypassed democratic institutions to secretly strike a deal with Tesla to build a factory near Berlin, then went to TV to brag about it. When you came around for opening day and got asked by the public about groundwater concerns and you broke out into inane laughter I finally understood what a dangerous and mad person you are. Go to hell and stay there.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by rsynnott »

Fuzzwah wrote: post #65
timeon wrote: post #35

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Is there a point to sell 'trucks' globally?

Profit?

I think their point is probably that the personal-use pickup truck (_presumably_ the Tesla truck isn't intended as an actual utility truck) is _mostly_ an American phenomenon; the idea of having a personal pickup truck is just far less common in most countries (I think it's somewhat a thing in Australia). So there may not be much of a global market for this _anyway_.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by rsynnott »

bottlepalm wrote: post #58
andrewmcwatters wrote: post #16

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It doesn’t matter. You can’t buy it. This is like reading developers say, “We’re almost done!” and you’ve only now pushed to the test environment. No QA, no UAT, nothing. If it’s not in production, it doesn’t exist.

I see so a vaporware product and a product with immense resources going into it, but not yet released are equal in your eyes. You remind me of the people who laughed about reusable rockets, starlink, private crew, and every tesla model. They laugh right up to the point it is released, and then they move the goal posts to the next product.

> I see so a vaporware product and a product with immense resources going into it, but not yet released are equal in your eyes.

No, no, they're completely different. That's why we all use Taligent, now.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by rsynnott »

bottlepalm wrote: post #95
andrewmcwatters wrote: post #70

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I made no such comments, but OK, sure, whatever you say. Bottom line is, if you cannot buy it, it doesn't exist to the public. You can't drive .jpegs of cars.

Really? because a million people in the public have put real money into deposits for it. Seems like it does exist in the public eye.

Ah, yes, the Star Citizen argument.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by rsynnott »

rkagerer wrote: post #55
slashdev wrote: post #21

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The number of cybertruck reservations say otherwise. It’s riskier, yes, but might payoff. I wouldn’t buy a normal truck, but a cybertruck is my dream vehicle. I’d rather own that than anything else, even if money was no object. And I’m far from a Tesla fanboy.

It might attract a new segment of the market that wouldn't otherwise buy a truck. e.g. My partner, she has no interest in a normal pickup truck, for some reason I still can't fathom wants one in bright orange.

... Huh, are they going to come in colours? I vaguely thought, in the event that any ever actually existed, that they'd be unpainted, a la DeLorean.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by Server6 »

dingosity wrote: post #141
dingosity wrote: post #108

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Tesla's 2023 marketing pitch should be "Hey, look! We can make vehicles without government subsidies!"

Nevermind. They're still getting the federal subsidies plus whatever tax deferral / forgiveness they negotiated with Texas. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/vw-rivian-nissan-bmw-lose-140...

Yeah, after new rule rollout Tesla in one of the few manufactures still eligible for the EV subsidy. Unfortunately they made the rules too stringent focused on US manufacturing. Which is great in theory, but in todays world of global supply chains isn't exactly practical.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by bryanlarsen »

swalling wrote: post #75
bryanlarsen wrote: post #72

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"Just build a normal truck" will mean adding an extra 2-5 years before production. I'm confident that will make things worse, not better.

The current product is not even remotely one that can compete in the market. It has to be redesigned, or they’re going to end up shipping the Pontiac Aztek of EV trucks.

Says somebody who has never driven, never seen and never read a review of the cybertruck.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by LammyL »

rainsford wrote: post #45
threeseed wrote: post #13

Tesla needs to fire Musk, abandon the childish and already dated Cybertruck and just build a normal truck/SUV. One that can compete with popular offerings from Rivian, Ford etc. and soon to be Porsche, RangeRover etc. And that can be easily sold globally unlike Cybertruck which has concerns from Australian regulators (and likely others) about whether it would be street legal given its unique sharp metal corners at ch…

I don't disagree that Musk probably isn't doing Tesla any favors lately, but even absent Musk, does the company actually know how to directly compete against established car makers in the same market segment? Tesla benefited a lot from being first with the "electric cars are cool now" approach, and they've been able to ride that early momentum pretty far as the other automakers struggled to catch up. Now all the othe…

Tesla is going to win on cost. They keep driving down the cost to manufacture EVs. That will bring down the selling price as well. Legacy auto makers offering EVs won’t be able to compete on price with Tesla without huge losses.

If you bet against Elon, you will lose.

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