I guess this is neat but I’d rather write code myself.
Yes. I would rather write the code myself too. But it's a good idea to use it to explore solutions or alternate implementations
An example of LLM prompting for programming
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Re: An example of LLM prompting for programming
#12A useful approach, but this is a tiny green field project. I'm not so sure it would work in a large existing proprietary system, where you shouldn't describe too much of the "NDA protected context"...
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#14I guess this is neat but I’d rather write code myself.
Yes. I would rather write the code myself too. But it's a good idea to use it to explore solutions or alternate implementations
It's like talking to a student or an intern. Which is not bad normally because we are also educating them.
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#15The article stresses to never put anything that may be confidential into the prompt . Yet, chatGpt offers to out-out from using your data for training. For most purposes that seems to be sufficient doesn't it? Or are there reasons not to trust OpenAi on this one?
Copilot for individuals stores code snippets by default according to their TOS. Sure, you can probably find a way to opt out of that somewhere as well, but you'd have to read the TOS for every plugin and service you use, find the opt-out links and make sure you don't opt-in again via some other route (such as not Copilot but ChatGPT proper or some other Github, VSCode or some other plugin or service button or knob).
Re: An example of LLM prompting for programming
#16A useful approach, but this is a tiny green field project. I'm not so sure it would work in a large existing proprietary system, where you shouldn't describe too much of the " NDA protected context "...
To me, this is likely an area where we'll see future coders tested:
Interviewer: Here is a very specific project. And this part here is NDA covered. We have provided a context prompt with all the generals. Let's say you are new here and we need you effective today. Show us how you'll cover the last mile with the LLM by writing prompts that do not violate NDA but get the needed work done. Then whiteboard for your team a prompt schema & policy that you think will work for this project.
I.e. a creativity exercise at the very least. You want someone who can code _for a prompt, to solve coverage problems_, and this is still coding.
For now I think a lot of people will hoard this kind of prompt info/leverage-pattern stuff when they discover it. It's not about the individual prompts.
Re: An example of LLM prompting for programming
#17If somebody thinks an LLM is coming for everybody's coding job, I'd say this article is a great counterpoint just for existing. You could tell someone from decades ago that we now use a very high level language for complex tasks in complex code ecosystems, never even mention AI, explain that the parser is really generalist-biased, and this article would make perfect sense as an example of exemplary code by a modern c…
Exactly, I actually liked the systematic approach in the article, but it seemed pretty labor-intensive and ... not that much different from other types of programming
Re: An example of LLM prompting for programming
#18If somebody thinks an LLM is coming for everybody's coding job, I'd say this article is a great counterpoint just for existing. You could tell someone from decades ago that we now use a very high level language for complex tasks in complex code ecosystems, never even mention AI, explain that the parser is really generalist-biased, and this article would make perfect sense as an example of exemplary code by a modern c…
The opposite might be true, and here’s why - 1) by using English as spec, the barrier of entry has gone lower, 2) LLMs can also write prompts and self introspect to debug.
Re: An example of LLM prompting for programming
#19If somebody thinks an LLM is coming for everybody's coding job, I'd say this article is a great counterpoint just for existing. You could tell someone from decades ago that we now use a very high level language for complex tasks in complex code ecosystems, never even mention AI, explain that the parser is really generalist-biased, and this article would make perfect sense as an example of exemplary code by a modern c…
Except you now have a way “upwards” from an abstraction POV. Regular code is severely limited and highly surgical, by design. This is not.
All these abstraction layers were invented to serve old style manual coders. Why bother explaining in great detail about “Konva” layers and react anymore? Give it a few years and let it finetune on IT tech and I see this being reduced to “I want whiteboard app with X general characteristics” at which point I’d no longer speak about “programming”.
Re: An example of LLM prompting for programming
#20I guess this is neat but I’d rather write code myself.
I'd rather farm all my own food, build my own house, and teach my own kids, but I don't have infinite time each day.