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The Windows 11 Trash Party

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Post by 72deluxe »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #109
gondaloof wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It’s stagnated in many respects You can’t say that with a straight face when the Finder on Mac has seen absolutely zero change since 2008. Windows Vista’s file controls blow every OS out of the water. I’m an Apple user and honestly I don’t remember the last useful feature added other the Universal Clipboard. I asked ChatGPT for a rundown and I just see a list of “moved things around and refreshed the UI”

> Windows Vista’s file controls blow every OS out of the water. Please elaborate.

I think XP's File Explorer was the best. Keyboard shortcuts that actually do things useful: keypad * will expand all directories under the current one if you select the item in the tree on the left. A great way to make your hard-disk using friends sit for a while - select C:\ and press * on the numeric keypad...

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Post by 2b3a51 »

WWLink wrote: post #42
sho_hn wrote: post #4

If you've never used an older Windows, here is a Win 2000 in the browser: https://bellard.org/jslinux/vm.html?url=win2k.cfg&mem=192&gr... (The Qemu.js post on the front page today lead me there via a readme link to jslinux.)

It's probably my computer/browser, but that feels hella slow. For those getting ideas, Windows 2000 was lightning fast to use. Even on something humble at the time. Those windows and menus popped up instantly.

At work (a college in the UK) decades ago the move from Windows ME/ Office 97 to Windows 2000/Office 2000 on the same hardware was like night and day.

Wonderfully solid and I was able to just get stuff done. Of course, we had IT technicians keeping everything going. I gathered that they had a lot less firefighting to do after the transition as well.

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Post by 72deluxe »

COMMENT___ wrote: post #228

> I use Windows to play games, but it truly feels like a trash party most of the time. Use Linux + Proton. It’s fascinating how Linux became a decent replacement for Windows for video games. (Thanks, Valve!)

Is there a standalone installer for this so you can run items not on Steam? I have many old Windows games you see, with DVDs.

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Post by pjmlp »

muyuu wrote: post #274
pjmlp wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They were a thing, on mainframes, micro-computers, and a few selected UNIXes like the (shortly lived) Tru64 and HP-UX. My introduction to containers was HP-UX Vaults.

they were not a thing that commodity hardware, but most importantly the target user, was really prepared to run at the time same as virtual machines were a thing in the early 70s and client-server in the 80s, but not for the target market despite the industry thought so for some time

It depends on the definition of target user/market. For IT professionals definitly yes.

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Post by Closi »

muyuu wrote: post #133
nstart wrote: post #31

Windows is my daily driver. I actually like the OS but Microsoft would do well to listen to these concerns being raised consistently. They need to ask some deep questions of themselves of what they want Windows to be. This reminds me of the days where Ballmers goal seemed to be to lock everyone into Windows and MS products when the real upside turned out to be “make MS products fully available where people already ar…

At some point MS decided their main rival is Google not Apple. Perhaps they're right. I'm not a MS user other than occasionally when work requires it, haven't really been for many many years. But looking at their stock and profit, I can't say they are doing badly at all. At some point, especially when your focus is the consumer market, you're not going to be so scrupulous with certain choices where the trade-off is p…

I think they decided that Apple is a coopetitor - i.e. they are a competitor on multiple fronts but they ultimately need to support their products operating on Apple's platform.

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Post by npteljes »

Many large concentrations of power have moved toward to softly excercising their powers, rather than hard. Users (also citizens) can take a lot of abuse IF their superiors position them to be vulnerable to them, and also give things to them at the same time. This kind of thing was a classic in interpersonal relationships, and now significant leaders found out that it works well on a large scale too.

And just to underline this point, I invite you to look at comments of people reacting to situations like this. They sense that something is very wrong, but as they are vulnerable and attached, they don't like the idea of letting go at all - so they defend, apologize, rationalize, do whatever they can so that they detach the undesirable thing from the beloved entity. Just like how poor abused people do to make sense of their partner hurting them.

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Post by MattPalmer1086 »

nstart wrote: post #31

Windows is my daily driver. I actually like the OS but Microsoft would do well to listen to these concerns being raised consistently. They need to ask some deep questions of themselves of what they want Windows to be. This reminds me of the days where Ballmers goal seemed to be to lock everyone into Windows and MS products when the real upside turned out to be “make MS products fully available where people already ar…

Honest question - what do you like about Windows?

I used windows from 3.1, NT, 95, 2000 until XP, at which point I switched to Linux for my main OS.

Obviously I used all the later versions of Windows too for work, but each version seemed worse and less usable (7 was ok I guess).

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Post by dncornholio »

Stupid defaults but who cares, can't be bothered to get upset about stuff that's disableable. Life is too short. It gets the revenue from the casual users. It's the price of free.

Solution: Don't let your kid on a fresh windows install.

I get the critique, 10 year younger me would be smoking out of my ears. These days, I just remove the unwanted stuff and continue with life.

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