While piling on windows 11, I love (sarcastically) that you cannot give feedback about windows 11 without the feedback hub, even if your installation of windows 11 is completely trashed by a botched recovery.
The Windows 11 Trash Party
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#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Is it an OS or an advertisement platform. OS for enterprise customers and Windows Pro users who know how to use Group Policy. Advertisement platform for everyone else. Sad times.
No, it's good times. Look at MSFT's stock price. Despite the lousy market, they're doing pretty well. You can whine all you want about the user experience being terrible, but that literally doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is how profitable the company is, and the value it provides to shareholders. Nothing else is important. If customers don't like being bombarded by ads in their OS, they're free to choose…
> No, it's good times. Look at MSFT's stock price. Despite the lousy market, they're doing pretty well.
MSFT is one of my major blue chips. Between Office, Azure and Windows; they always perform pretty well:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/MSFT/
I’m not expecting any big returns from them, but they certainly beat inflation, when amortized over my investment period. And they don’t seem to be going anywhere soon.
Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party
#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Is it an OS or an advertisement platform. OS for enterprise customers and Windows Pro users who know how to use Group Policy. Advertisement platform for everyone else. Sad times.
No, it's good times. Look at MSFT's stock price. Despite the lousy market, they're doing pretty well. You can whine all you want about the user experience being terrible, but that literally doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is how profitable the company is, and the value it provides to shareholders. Nothing else is important. If customers don't like being bombarded by ads in their OS, they're free to choose…
This is a very narrow view of what "good" is.
If a company dumps barrels full of toxic DDT in the Pacific Ocean causing widespread pollution, but still make a profit for their shareholders; would you still argue they are a good company?
Same for Windows. They are polluting our visual space. These ads are unwanted and not sought out.
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#224Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is somewhat strange then that enterprise linux is not more common, you get stability and configurability. I mostly put this down to bad salesmanship/C*s tending to be effectively technological cavemen...perhaps there are backroom deals we are not privy to, though.
Except you dont, not in termos of unchanging UX. Gnome reinvents itself too often… I’m surprised XFCE isn’t pushed more as an option.
Wouldn't enterprise desktop folk go with the longer lived commercial distro's or LTS releases?
Doing a quick check, Red Hat still has a "Workstations" product for RHEL:
https://www.redhat.com/en/technologies/linux-platforms/enter...
Hmmm, I thought they used to have a non-"workstation" desktop oriented flavour too, but maybe that's been discontinued or rolled into the Workstation thing above.
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#225It makes me so angry that companies like Microsoft are so dead set on shoving the culture down my throat by all means possible for a few cents of ad revenue while I do my best to avoid the culture as much as possible. I will pay. I will pay lots. Just fuck off with the shootings and the child abuses and the red vs blue and the things that are ruining our brains.
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My sibling comments have addressed this appropriately, but allow me to offer you a genuinely heartfelt response: Fuck You. Of course it outrages me. What kind of asshole sees someone complaining about seeing headlines about children being murdered in their own schools and immediately concludes that they don't also hate the actual shootings? Or even better, doesn't even think about that and just sees a "gotcha" opportunity.
Your profile says "Everything is terrible". You can improve that, and you can start with yourself.
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#226Go to Personalization / Taskbar. Turn off the widgets icon. Hide the Search bar. Turn off the Chat icon. Voila! Just Windows. Instead of cursing at the sky, I just turn off what I don't want. MacOS is an old, outdated clown car of an OS that looks like it hasn't been updated in 15 years. Let me know when the Year of Linux happens. Meanwhile, Windows is the most efficient, easy-to-use OS for development and media task…
You might be interested in this I'm working on, it also came up when the original mentioned articles was posted here.
It's fine tuned for my own needs but I think I'll add another more barebones config set.
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#227The Windows OOBE experience is trash now. Thanks to their “on by default” widgets, it’s like getting a subscription to the National Enquirer along with an OS. This isn’t a knock against the idea of widgets btw. Widgets can be useful. The issue is, whoever PMed this feature has applied his or her taste on to millions of Windows users. This is a masterclass on how not to manage a widely used product.
>This is a masterclass on how not to manage a widely used product. The MSFT stock price disagrees with you. Looks like they're managing it just fine to me.
The stock price has little to do with product quality, especially for a company like Microsoft with multiple revenue streams.
That said, Windows OEM revenue is down almost 40% [1] — yes weak PC sales have contributed, but these days I suspect it’s going to be difficult for Microsoft to find enthusiastic PC buyers. Most buyers grit their teeth and spend time undoing Microsoft’s obnoxious defaults.
[1] https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/24/23569050/microsoft-q2-202...
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#228> I use Windows to play games, but it truly feels like a trash party most of the time.
Use Linux + Proton. It’s fascinating how Linux became a decent replacement for Windows for video games. (Thanks, Valve!)
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#229Windows is definitely adware now. Microsoft saw how much the average user would install, and thought "we can do that too"; of course, by being "official", their own adware is much harder to remove. Windows can show the weather in the bottom left of the task bar, which is nice I've never wanted that feature nor found it appealing. I can just look outside if I want to know the weather where I am, or visit a site otherw…
> I've never wanted that feature Same for the obligatory stocks feature every OS is obsessed to put when (certainly outside the US) only a tiny minority of people trade stocks.
> a tiny minority of people trade stocks
I believe the correct term for it is yolo stonks
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You consider 10 "good"? Maybe compared to 8, but not anything before. It's gotten consistently worse with each new version since ~XP. 8 was a massive nosedive, 8.1 a slight improvement over 8, and 10 roughly the same, and 11 another nosedive.
XP SP3 was gold for gaming.
For about 3 weeks, and then you had to reimage the system again ...