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OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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Re: OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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I don't think LLMs are over [0]. I think we're relatively close to a local optimum in terms of what can be achieved with current algorithms. But I think OpenAI is at least as likely as any other player to create the next paradigm, and that it's at least as likely as likely as any other player to develop the leading models within the next paradigm regardless of who actually publishes the research. Separately, I think…

It already is relatively trivial to fine-tune generative models for various use cases. Which implies huge gains to be had with targeted applications not just for niche players but also OpenAI and others to either build that fine-tuning into the base system, build ecosystems around it, or just purpose build applications on top.

I think it's more exciting if compute stops being the core differentiation, as purpose trained models is exactly where I suspect real value lies.

Especially as a differentiation for a company. If everyone is using ChatGPT, then they're all offering the same thing and I can just as well go to the source and cut out the middleman.

The other fun development to come is well performing self hosted models, and the idea of light weight domain specific interface models that curate responses from bigger generalist models.

ChatGPT is fun but it is very general, it doesn't know about my business nor keep track of it or interface with it. I fully expect to see "Expert Systems" of old come back, but trained on our specific businesses.

Re: OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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> he pretty much admitted he's not an AI Yeah, I also had a hunch he wasn't an AI. (I assume you meant "AI researcher" there :)) All joking aside, I wonder how that's affecting company morale or their ability to attract top researchers. I know if I was a top AI researcher, I'd probably rather work at a company where the CEO was an expert in the field (all else being equal).

I think Ilya leading the tech is plenty morale boosting

Ilya gives numerous talks and interviews, and he's well worth listening to about technical matters. I listened to many of his talks recently, and the main theme is that scaling up compute works, and will continue to do so. His optimism about the potential of scaling to support deep learning has clearly guided his entire career, starting with his early success on AlexNet.

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He’s not presenting false evidence here, he’s presenting a hunch. It’s a guess. No one is going to gain anything from this one way or another.

> No one is going to gain anything from this one way or another. Then why did Altman even bother to make this very public statement?

Altman's made it clear he does not mind being wrong.

Smart people are allowed to make mistakes.

Re: OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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They'll give it the premium tier at least

Premium won't save you from Raid Shadow Legends. I don't know how but they'll put ads in your dreams if you're not careful.

They need to make sure to install sponsorblock for gpt and then it should be fine.

Re: OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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> A transformer trained on all text and all of YouTube will be killer amazing at so much. ah yes, a bot where the answer to everything is to buy ridge wallets and play raid shadow legends

GPT-LikeSubscribeAndRingThatBell

Whisper will frequently turn an empty audio file into “thanks for watching”.

Re: OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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Both ChatGPT 3.5 and 4 literally fail the question: "What is the third letter in the third word of this sentence" When you've spent 100 million on training the thing and it fails on 1st grade ordinality I think it's fair to say you may not be on the right path

GPT4: In the sentence "What is the third letter in the third word in this sentence?", the third word is "third." The third letter in "third" is 'i'. Given that we have only provided a text prompt and no context or body language hints, GPT seems to interpret this literally. The answer is correct. The third letter of the word "third" is "i".

> The answer is correct.

Come on. If GPT “interprets this literally” how does it “interpret” the word “sentence” following “this”?

Re: OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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The point is that now we're at the point of diminishing return for increasing model size, unless we find a better modeling architecture than Transformer. I think this is likely true; while all the other companies underestimated the capability of transformer (including Google itself!), OpenAI made a fairly accurate bet on the transformer based on the scaling law, put all the efforts to squeeze it until the last drop a…

> (including Google itself!) Bet Google won’t make that mistake again, i.e. it won’t publish as much and will be much more careful about what it publishes, least they give a competitor a useful tool and get nothing in return - when the competitor (in this case very ironically named) goes full commercial and close source everything they can. Open collaboration in AI, at least when it comes to corporations, might have…

The scale of the damage Open AI has done to the trust ecosystem with soliciting not just the work, but also massive fundraising and then privatizing the profits is almost unprecedented and permanent.

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Does this mean we’ve reached the next AI winter? This is as good as it gets for quite a long time? Honest question :) perhaps this will postpone everyone’s fears about the singularity…

Many years ago, there was an image that floated around with Craigslist and all the websites that replaced small parts of it—personals, for sale ads, etc. It turned out the way to beat Craigslist wasn’t to build Yet Another Monolithic Craigslist, but to chunk it off in pieces and be the best at that piece. This is analogous to what’s happening with AI models. Sam Altman is saying we have reached the point where spendi…

I had the thought that many of those services broken off can now be recombined. No one likes having to use 100 saas products imho.

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I had a fun conversation (more like argument) with ChatGPT about the hypocrisy of OpenAI. It would explicitly contradict itself and then began starting every reply with “I can see why someone might think…” and then just regurgitating fluff about democratizing AI. I finally was able to have it define democratization of technology and then recognize the absurdity of using that label to describe a pivot to gating models…

It was trained on corpus full of mainstream media lies, why would you have expected otherwise? It's by far the most common deflection in its training set. It's easy to recognize and laugh at the AI replying with the preprogrammed narrative, I'm still waiting for the majority of people realizing they are given the same training materials, non-stop, with the same toxic narratives, and becoming programmed in the same wa…

>> Their brand of reasoning is just basically reasoning with brands.

Excellent post, especially this part. Sums up the problem perfectly.

Re: OpenAI’s CEO says the age of giant AI models is already over

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I strongly believe the next generation of models will be based upon spiking neural concepts wherein action potentials are lazily-evaluated throughout the network (i.e. event-driven). There are a few neuron models that can be modified (at some expense to fidelity) in order to tolerate arbitrary delays between simulation ticks. Using actual latency between neurons as a means of encoding information seems absolutely ess…

This is like trying to build a more sophisticated bird-costume for flight instead of a steel flying machine. Human intelligence has a lot of features that are not necessary for artificial intelligence, because it doesn't have to build itself from ground-up using biology.
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