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Why don’t more people live close to friends?

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Re: Why don’t more people live close to friends?

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Move to Baltimore, my friend. There are at least six bars within five blocks of my house. You’d have to get pretty sloshed to not be able to make the walk back.

Yeah, totally safe walking drunk in Baltimore at night...

Lay off the Fox News

Re: Why don’t more people live close to friends?

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Here’s another thing no one talks about because it’s taboo: drink driving. Right up until the mid 70s, it was completely socially acceptable to drink and drive. Now I agree that it was probably a good thing that’s it’s been banned, but having to pay for and organise transportation to go to whatever event it is you want to go to adds another substantial layer of friction to socialising. Not to mention the fact that th…

Uber makes things a lot simpler.

I agree. A DUI costs easily $10K regardless of outcome. Lost opportunity cost of not networking (job opportunity, friend opportunity, happiness, therapy) easily has the same cost over just a few years. Uber is very cheap in comparison… many people don’t make the comparison.

Re: Why don’t more people live close to friends?

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Cause we have an economy that has atomized everyone to where you have to fight for your own survival - constantly. I'd love having some of my friends be my neighbors. But I had to move cross country just to find a partner because living in Silicon Valley was going to leave me an incel. (No surprise - I leave and I've had far more partners than I ever did in SV) I'll move back eventually with a partner in tow but the…

Your first sentence makes me wonder how much "taking work home" has compromised our social lives. On any given night trying to catch up with friends, it's likely that at least one will have a deadline they're working to, or trying not to fall behind on workload in general. If you come up against that a couple of times, or have your own work pressures, I find that you're less likely to initiate anything.

Re: Why don’t more people live close to friends?

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In addition to what other have said, the definition of "friends" may change with time and context. Like yourself, my family was super "close" to our neighbours when I was growing up. But they weren't even remotely "friends" in the sense that I might use the word today - there were zero common interests; significantly different backgrounds, world perspectives, priorities, lifestyles; they had little to talk about othe…

> less superficially and more importantly, they would not be particularly honest or open or intimate with each other within the parameters of social norms This is more of a product of the time. My parents weren’t that open with close friends either back in the 70s when I was growing up. Fast forward to today and my friends are all quite open about personal things. And the one I know who is friends with his neighbor i…

This is probably a generational thing. I’m GenX. Growing up I never heard anyone talk about being depressed, having anxiety, etc. If someone today started trying to talk to me about mental health issues, I’d probably just have a deer in the headlights look since I have no clue how to respond to that sort of topic.

Re: Why don’t more people live close to friends?

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post #101

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Here’s another thing no one talks about because it’s taboo: drink driving. Right up until the mid 70s, it was completely socially acceptable to drink and drive. Now I agree that it was probably a good thing that’s it’s been banned, but having to pay for and organise transportation to go to whatever event it is you want to go to adds another substantial layer of friction to socialising. Not to mention the fact that th…

This is why I love living in a city with a reliable train network. So many times I have left a party completely drunk late at night, and been perfectly able to manage my way back home. Seems like Americans are left with the choice to either risk killing someone/themselves driving home or just not going out.

> Seems like Americans are left with the choice to either risk killing someone/themselves driving home or just not going out.

If only there was a service where you can pay money to be driven somewhere... I heard Americans invented these smartphones with apps, Maybe they can even invent an app-based version of that paid ride service!

Re: Why don’t more people live close to friends?

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Earlier in the 20th century, there was a lot of interest in promoting community while integrating with automotive transportation.

Here are a few interesting things to read on the topic of community design that promotes social interaction and cohesion:

The Making of Columbia, MD and Reston, VA (https://www.richmondfed.org/publications/research/econ_focus...)

Jane Jacob’s on the importance of neighborhoods (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Jacobs) (https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-death-and-life-of-great...)

Greenbelt, MD (https://www.greenbeltmuseum.org/greenbelt-history)

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Sure, that’s a defensible argument on the merits against the colloquial usage of the word city as applied to some of these places but you’re running up against the fact that the term “city” has been eroded to near meaninglessness in North America. New England has counties and townships and cities, California and Texas only have counties and cities. Even a place that calls itself a town is still a city as far as their…

And a few places like Virginia, you have Cities and Counties, and you can only be in one or the other. Sort of a Vatican City/Italy situation, except the same country.

Even worse, some of those "cities" only have about 3000 people in them.

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This is why I love living in a city with a reliable train network. So many times I have left a party completely drunk late at night, and been perfectly able to manage my way back home. Seems like Americans are left with the choice to either risk killing someone/themselves driving home or just not going out.

> Seems like Americans are left with the choice to either risk killing someone/themselves driving home or just not going out. If only there was a service where you can pay money to be driven somewhere... I heard Americans invented these smartphones with apps, Maybe they can even invent an app-based version of that paid ride service!

Yeah if I had to pay $50+ (The actual price uber charges for this trip) to get home, I'd just stay home.

Thankfully with a functioning public transport network, it costs me $4

Re: Why don’t more people live close to friends?

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I'd say "a dozen or two" is a very high number. Enjoy and value your luck!

reminds me of this saying, in different variations, attributed to Aristotle: "He who has many friends has no friends".

My entire point is that, despite having a large social circle I have only ever made “a handful of close friends.” Adjusting my life to be closer to them, instead of trying to replace them to compromise on other aspects, was one of my smartest moves ever.

Re: Why don’t more people live close to friends?

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Americans are friendly but when it comes to the decisions that matter (voting and the votes with our wallets) the preference is for the private over the public. People are scared to depend on each other or to be forced to interact with strangers. So we’ll all try to have our own cars and drive on huge suburban streets and put our kids in private schools and build fences around our yards and vote down zoning laws that…

I think "scared" is the wrong word for it. People in the US tend to have very low levels of contentiousness, and that in turn makes people want to avoid strangers. The most obvious recent example is the push back against masking. In a high population density urban setting, even a few people who aren't adhering to masking raises the general risk level for people substantially. In less population dense areas it doesn't…

Do you mean conscientiousness? Low contentiousness is nearly the opposite of what you are going for
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