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The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by lamontcg »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #51
matthewdgreen wrote: post #40

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The Model Y has a very conventional style, so the fact that it sells well would seem to be a point in favor of the GP’s argument. It also sells in many continents, which Cybertruck might not be able to do.

Consider Tesla did not copy existing manufacturers. They built their own markets (S->X->3->Y). People complain online loudly about the touchscreen, quality, but I'll be damned, these units get moved regardless (well on our way to almost 3M/year [1]). For example, Harley can't woo younger riders to the brand because their attempt to acquire them turns off older Harley fans who are slowly dying out. Tesla doesn't have…

> For example, Harley can't woo younger riders to the brand because their attempt to acquire them turns off older Harley fans who are slowly dying out.

That cuts the other direction as well, if Tesla/Musk just alienate 90% of the population and the backlash builds against their touchscreens and build quality then they may find that they're just selling to fanbois.

And the EV Ranger is the vehicle that is targeting the kids of the people who presently drive F150s.

A car/truck purchase is emotional, and if you live in Astoria, OR a cybertruck is going to get you a ton of shit from everyone you know.

The successful Tesla models have had styling that pretty much looked like any other vehicle and didn't stand out a lot and any cachet was based around what it was and how it performed.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by LapsangGuzzler »

DennisP wrote: post #131
LapsangGuzzler wrote: post #60

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Do you have a source for this? I don’t see the cost-savings in a stainless-steel paneled vehicle like this. Not to mention that if does dent, you’ll have a harder time popping it out. Also since it’s Tesla, you’re gonna have to see a certified repair shop for it. Idk this just feels like an internet rumor, I’d love to read something substantial on how the manufacturing process is cheaper.

There was a lot of talk about that several years ago, but I couldn't find the specific article I was thinking of, which went into a lot of detail. But there were a lot of articles referencing analysis by Sandy Munro, which apparently is mostly on video. Here's one: https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-cybertruck-engineer... Also found this: https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-cybertruck-secret-production... > there i…

Great stuff, thanks for putting it together

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by bottlepalm »

xracy wrote: post #146
bottlepalm wrote: post #95

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Really? because a million people in the public have put real money into deposits for it. Seems like it does exist in the public eye.

If you give me $100 I will put you first in line for my new electric "xracy-truck" when it launches in 2027. We have a perfect track record of hitting our target deliveries for all of our projects. NOTE: You aren't actually getting the truck, I'm just giving you a spot in line to buy the truck. The truck still costs $80k

Good idea, you won’t get any money which will prove my point that people can tell bullshit from an actual product. Well not you, but most other people.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by GaryNumanVevo »

honeybadger1 wrote: post #154

I have a model Y performance and love it. I reserved the cybertruck within the first 5 minutes of being able to. I will enjoy rolling around in bleeding edge technology while people have their opinions.

In this case literally bleeding edge! The cybertruck is heavy enough to not be required to have airbags and they literally don't have airbags!

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by GaryNumanVevo »

slashdev wrote: post #98
Symbiote wrote: post #38

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It's extremely unsafe. The design is illegal in at least the European Union, UK and Australia.

Unsafe to others, yes. Maybe it makes me a bit of an asshole, but I’m ok with that tradeoff. I’ve never had a collision in my life, but my cars have been hit by others. I’m principally concerned with safety for myself and my family. Concern for others on the road comes a lot further down the list. Sorry. I drive with great care and responsibility, but many others do not. I’m worried about protecting me from them, not…

You do realize that the Cybertruck literally has no airbags right?

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by bottlepalm »

operatingthetan wrote: post #101
bottlepalm wrote: post #91

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Real robot, being tested in real factory - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xChD-gv_pc

You're ignoring the fact that Tesla does "waste their time on crap like that." And the robot isn't real. Watch the video I linked if you are actually honest with yourself.

People said SpaceX was wasting their time trying to land a rocket. High risk, high reward. The potential for advanced robots in vehicle production is a no brainer.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by slashdev »

GaryNumanVevo wrote: post #156
slashdev wrote: post #98

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Unsafe to others, yes. Maybe it makes me a bit of an asshole, but I’m ok with that tradeoff. I’ve never had a collision in my life, but my cars have been hit by others. I’m principally concerned with safety for myself and my family. Concern for others on the road comes a lot further down the list. Sorry. I drive with great care and responsibility, but many others do not. I’m worried about protecting me from them, not…

You do realize that the Cybertruck literally has no airbags right?

I do not realize that, and I question your sources.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by operatingthetan »

bottlepalm wrote: post #157
operatingthetan wrote: post #101

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You're ignoring the fact that Tesla does "waste their time on crap like that." And the robot isn't real. Watch the video I linked if you are actually honest with yourself.

People said SpaceX was wasting their time trying to land a rocket. High risk, high reward. The potential for advanced robots in vehicle production is a no brainer.

>People said SpaceX was wasting their time trying to land a rocket.

Others did that before. It doesn't appear that you are capable of having a good-faith discussion on this topic given your tendency to change the subject and offering incorrect information. If you did not watch the video there is no point in further conversation.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by slashdev »

klyrs wrote: post #139
slashdev wrote: post #90

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I envy you. My new car is only months old and I’m already having to pay to pop out dents and touch up paint. Careless people parking next to me.

I forgot, truck ownership didn't used to overlap with image-consciousness. But we all saw the cannonball demo, didn't we? Do you really think the body is going to be invincible? I, for one, look forward to testing cybertruck body panels when they park too close to me.

If you don’t at least touch up the paint it rusts. At least where I live.
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