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The Windows 11 Trash Party

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Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

#31

Post by nstart »

Windows is my daily driver. I actually like the OS but Microsoft would do well to listen to these concerns being raised consistently. They need to ask some deep questions of themselves of what they want Windows to be.

This reminds me of the days where Ballmers goal seemed to be to lock everyone into Windows and MS products when the real upside turned out to be “make MS products fully available where people already are”. To me this brought about some great changes to their products on android, Mac, and iOS. Even the web versions of their products are actually really good.

I feel like windows is going through the same identity crisis that Ballmer took the MSFT brand through. Like what does it want to be? Is it an OS or an advertisement platform. Right now it’s trying to be both and that sucks. I hope that someone from very high up finally steps in at some point and clarifies the vision for windows and closes up all these crap avenues of revenue squeezing.

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

#32

Post by akomtu »

I can see MS implementing an Ad auction built into Windows. Each rectangle in the UI that can show ads receives bids from advertisers in real time. The latter get a direct link to user data, they can see who the users are, their names, ages, the programs their run, even their webcam feed. The auction will be poorly implenented, so often Windows would switch between two almost winners, resulting in annoying flickering of the ad. The big whales will get access to the VIP ad placement: the one that locks up your screen and shows a full screen ad for a minute.

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

#33

Post by teruakohatu »

adithyassekhar wrote: post #30

Edit: I'm comparing it with Windows 10. For me it felt like Microsoft lost it's way after 8.1 and now coming back to the Windows 7 way of things. Design wise aero looks similar. Windows 11 has been the most beautiful most stable and consistent windows I've ever used. It feels like a modern and rock stable update of Windows 7. I never got a blue screen or anything bad. Finally it feels like Microsoft is trying to make…

> Windows 11 has been the most beautiful most stable and consistent windows I've ever used. It feels like a modern and rock stable update of Windows 7. I never got a blue screen or anything bad.

Preventing updates is herculean and some of those updates inject advertisements [1]. It feels like Windows 11 is constantly changing and I have no control over it.

> or use the "Show more options" button occasionally.

It feels I have to "Show more options" about 50% of the time.

[1] https://sports.yahoo.com/microsoft-isn-t-done-shoving-150500...

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

#34

Post by snapdeus »

FridayoLeary wrote: post #21
fouc wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMHO we should be boycotting all chromium-based browsers. Use Firefox or Safari (if on MacOS) as your daily driver.

My issue with ff is that when you load a tab, it's status is denoted by a horizontal bar moving from left to right which distracts me. It's beyond me why they don't use a rotating loop like the rest of civilisation. It's an incredibly minor thing, but it's the main reason i stick to chrome. A similarly trivial feature makes me dislike edge.

Oh interesting. The rotating loop triggers my aphantasia which is why I stick to Firefox and it's pleasing horizontal bar. /S

Fyi you can customize the loading SVG in Firefox. Isn't it nice to use software that respects you?

https://www.reddit.com/r/FirefoxCSS/comments/hy9ibw/tree_sty...

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

#35

Post by adithyassekhar »

teruakohatu wrote: post #33
adithyassekhar wrote: post #30

Edit: I'm comparing it with Windows 10. For me it felt like Microsoft lost it's way after 8.1 and now coming back to the Windows 7 way of things. Design wise aero looks similar. Windows 11 has been the most beautiful most stable and consistent windows I've ever used. It feels like a modern and rock stable update of Windows 7. I never got a blue screen or anything bad. Finally it feels like Microsoft is trying to make…

> Windows 11 has been the most beautiful most stable and consistent windows I've ever used. It feels like a modern and rock stable update of Windows 7. I never got a blue screen or anything bad. Preventing updates is herculean and some of those updates inject advertisements [1]. It feels like Windows 11 is constantly changing and I have no control over it. > or use the "Show more options" button occasionally. It feel…

Windows update has never been an issue for me, I think it's because I turn off my computer every night? It just happens itself and never bothers me. I understand other people won't be using their computers like me. You can still disable the Windows update service or use Group Policy I think.

You can revert to the old context menu in that case: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/restor...

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

#36

Post by WWLink »

nstart wrote: post #31

Windows is my daily driver. I actually like the OS but Microsoft would do well to listen to these concerns being raised consistently. They need to ask some deep questions of themselves of what they want Windows to be. This reminds me of the days where Ballmers goal seemed to be to lock everyone into Windows and MS products when the real upside turned out to be “make MS products fully available where people already ar…

> Like what does it want to be? Is it an OS or an advertisement platform.

It's an OS created for enterprise corporations to support and manage the actions of their employees in a digital world. First and foremost. Most MS products are.

The ad platform is MS trying to find ways to continue growing profits. :D

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

#37

Post by WWLink »

kevingadd wrote: post #28
FridayoLeary wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well it is actually a rather useful feature even if op doesn't like it.

Personally I use the weather app a lot, but I disabled that godawful taskbar icon the moment it appeared due to the performance hit and the way that it blasts you with right-wing clickbait the moment you click on it. A good version of it would definitely be enabled personally.

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Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

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Post by catchnear4321 »

is any of this not able to be disabled? uninstalling is disabling, but better.

sure, it is annoying to have crapware installed by the manufacturer.

maybe my test potato isn’t powerful enough to warrant using windows as more than something on which to run a browser. poorly.

ignoring that detail, windows 11 is fine as windows goes.

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

#39

Post by johnea »

That's when Windows died for me...

Welcome back to reality. took you long enough.

M$ has no motivation to put anything in there, or take anything out, unless it's going to profit M$.

Of course, most people on this propaganda feed are firmly in the "if it's good for a billionaire it's good for me" boat.

Good luck with that...

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

#40

Post by johnea »

nstart wrote: post #31

Windows is my daily driver. I actually like the OS but Microsoft would do well to listen to these concerns being raised consistently. They need to ask some deep questions of themselves of what they want Windows to be. This reminds me of the days where Ballmers goal seemed to be to lock everyone into Windows and MS products when the real upside turned out to be “make MS products fully available where people already ar…

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