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The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by dingosity »

dingosity wrote: post #108
rainsford wrote: post #45

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I don't disagree that Musk probably isn't doing Tesla any favors lately, but even absent Musk, does the company actually know how to directly compete against established car makers in the same market segment? Tesla benefited a lot from being first with the "electric cars are cool now" approach, and they've been able to ride that early momentum pretty far as the other automakers struggled to catch up. Now all the othe…

Tesla's 2023 marketing pitch should be "Hey, look! We can make vehicles without government subsidies!"

Nevermind. They're still getting the federal subsidies plus whatever tax deferral / forgiveness they negotiated with Texas.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/vw-rivian-nissan-bmw-lose-140...

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by senectus1 »

bottlepalm wrote: post #12

Not existing? They built an entire factory for it in Texas, is in going through crash testing, qualification, and the truck is regularly seen on test runs around their offices. This just seems like a lazy hit piece with little actual information even though there is a lot out there if you actually follow the development. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvy19pEVs1M

yeah that liquid metal press thing (giga-press) they had built for it is a.effing.mazing...

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by senectus1 »

crazygringo wrote: post #69
bottlepalm wrote: post #62

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Wait you think they brought the vehicle to a crash testing facility, wired it up with sensors, painted all the structural components for identification and then didn't actually crash it? Talk about conspiracy theories, wow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnqKm4WJs1o

Of course I do. It's called marketing. It's a relatively cheap commercial to make, and the fact that it went viral proves it was a good use of budget. Setting up fake scenarios is basically every TV commercial ever. That doesn't make them conspiracies. Also it was April 1. It was a joke video, get it?

the joke was that you never get to see the crash.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by slashdev »

dingosity wrote: post #126
slashdev wrote: post #30

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Large, extremely safe, no paint to maintain, no body that gets easily dented, impact resistant glass, electric, high performance, long range, great torque and acceleration, can haul stuff, can fit a family, can be used in a pinch for power, and looks awesome. And maybe the self driving stuff will turn out to be useful too. Too soon to say. Electric vehicles are coming much more slowly where I am and they cost 1.5-2x…

Um... the impact resistant glass was not especially impact resistant at the unveiling, but you just go on believing that it was. Life is too short to get bummed out by consensus reality.

There’s more to that story than meets the eye. The other tests and sledgehammer hits to the door may have weakened the glass. Either way it’s more than my car will handle now.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by bottlepalm »

dingosity wrote: post #119
bottlepalm wrote: post #82

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I guess you have to use your own common sense to determine if a product is moving forward or not. DNF is a great example of something that obviously was not moving forward. CyberTruck obviously is.

In what way is the cybertruck moving forward? You still can't buy one and if you put money down on one, you're still not getting your cybertruck. Reminds me of my Starlink experience: pay $100 to get on the waiting list, wait a while, pay an additional $500 to get the downlink terminal, wait, wait some more, try to figure out who I know who still works at SpaceX because there's no support contact info for people who…

Building factories and qualification testing is literal progress.

Starlink has global availability right now though a laser backed network. The only place you can’t get it are overloaded cells and countries that have not given landing rights.

I’m sorry for your anecdotal issue, but the system has over a million users so I think it’s fine. Starships first use will be to put up the 2nd gen network.

It’s funny how people cry about high speed low latency internet in remote places that wasn’t even possible a few years ago.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by xracy »

bottlepalm wrote: post #95
andrewmcwatters wrote: post #70

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I made no such comments, but OK, sure, whatever you say. Bottom line is, if you cannot buy it, it doesn't exist to the public. You can't drive .jpegs of cars.

Really? because a million people in the public have put real money into deposits for it. Seems like it does exist in the public eye.

If you give me $100 I will put you first in line for my new electric "xracy-truck" when it launches in 2027. We have a perfect track record of hitting our target deliveries for all of our projects.

NOTE: You aren't actually getting the truck, I'm just giving you a spot in line to buy the truck. The truck still costs $80k

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by smeyer »

techsupporter wrote: post #59
smeyer wrote: post #50

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>extremely safe Do you care about the safety of others, or only yourself? You listed safety second in your list of positives, but I'm curious if you're considering things like pedestrian safety or just driver/passenger safety.

> I'm curious if you're considering things like pedestrian safety or just driver/passenger safety. I'm sure some people do hold this view, but I've never met someone who's buying a vehicle and looks into how well it deals with people outside of the vehicle as part of safety considerations. While pictures of lifted trucks and high-bumper vehicles are fairly common posts on Twitter, usually for dunks, people still buy…

We haven't met in person, but hi! Part of why I own a sedan rather than an SUV (although not the only reason) is safety of others. It's also part of why I avoided car ownership for many years!

I'd prefer that this safety consideration be handled via regulation, though. I'd love to see cars that recklessly endanger the lives of those outside the car banned, limited, or taxed.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by bottlepalm »

klyrs wrote: post #140
bottlepalm wrote: post #132

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It’s very strange how anti innovation people are here on hacker news. Tesla does a lot of things, they’re not all going to be winners, why hold that against them, instead of celebrating their drive to do new ideas and not just what’s safe. They built a test hyper loop in California, boring company is actively building in Vegas and hardware to hold pressure in a tunnel was tested in Texas. It’s not like they say thing…

Don't mistake anti-hype with anti-innovation. Folks at HN are wary of people who promise long and deliver short.

Tesla has delivered more than enough, but people here will never be happy. Just like Bitcoin, I guarantee you the day it hits 100k people here will still be complaining about it

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by senectus1 »

This article is missing a point.

This is capitalism at work. there is a market, so Elon is tapping it.

This goes for both products the truck and the beer.

YOU might not like it, but enough people are willing to pour millions into it that it will be profitable for him.

Re: The Cybertruck is years behind schedule, so Tesla is launching a $30 beer

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

dingosity wrote: post #127
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #111

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Nothing stops them from coming out with a more traditional truck later except that it clearly takes them many years to ship a new model, and all the while customers who want a truck now or don't want a cybertruck are going to competitors. Of course at this point they are committed to release. But I agree with others that releasing a more traditional truck would have been more savvy.

Why do you think they're committed to a release?

I don't know much about their status but other people in this thread suggest their factory is tooled up and they are close to release, so it might be a bad time to cancel everything and go back to the drawing board. Then they would have no truck for another 5 years.
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